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Old 03-08-2003, 04:21 AM  
jimmyf
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Originally posted by Colin
I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat, neither a conservative nor a liberal. I consider myself an independent with a heavy dose of libertarianism. I don't care much for party politics except for it's pure value as entertainment.

The Communications Decency Act (CDA) was passed in 1996. It was signed by Republicans. It was signed by Democrats. It was signed by President Clinton. The law would have effectively made verification of age (most likely by credit card verification) a requirement of law for porn sites (aee the court ACLU case for details). The section in question had no reference to child porn or obscenity. This was a requirement on ALL porn. This is precisely what the case brought by the ACLU hung on. The CDA didn't even require that any exempt material must have socially redeemable value.

At the time, many of us wondered whether this would mean the end of free sites. No one knew in what way this legislation would be enforced. The Communications Decency Act was an unconstitutional act that took aim directly at internet porn and would have required age verification just to view free porn pics online.
The ACLU thought it was unconstitutional and so, luckily, did the The Supreme Court.

To use the vernacular of party politics, it doesn't make much sense to me that a "liberal" webmaster would consider "conservatives" to be the root of all anti-pornography measures when a Democratic president signed such an act. Clinton supported it. Clinton believed in it. Clinton signed it. If Bush had signed CDA, Democrats would say it was because he was a "conservative anti-porn Republican". Since Clinton signed such an act into law, should we then also and fairly label Democrats as "conservative anti-porn Democrats"? How can a pornographer POSSIBLY defend Clinton signing CDA? Do you think for some reason that Democrats care about some low-life pornographers and Republicans don't? Neither does.

Remember this important point. After the Supreme Court said the law was unconstitutional, Clinton released a statement disagreeing with them!

Showing statistics that one party is more anti-porn than another makes no sense to OUR rights. It's like a World War II Polish citizen arguing which was better - the Germans attacking from the West or the Russians from the East. Politicians are the enemy of pornography. Democrats and Republicans, enemies both. Two groups, both of which signed into legislation laws that would have restricted all and criminalized some elements of our business that are presently legal if it weren't for the highest court in the land, the Supreme Court.

We cannot ignore the hard evidence that a Democratic president signed an unconstitutional document that would have harmed many of our businesses. We also cannot ignore the fact that a Republican one would do the same thing. NEITHER party has nor will defend your right to continue in this business. We are pornographers - immoral scum of the Earth to most people. There is no higher ground. It's all dirt down here. We're the seedy underground - the purveyors of backroom sex and distributors of filth to 50 year old palm pushing poorly dressed men named Larry.

Reno was not respecting free speech by not enforcing CDA. She believed in it wholeheartedly. At the time, she was busy defending the law in court. RENO vs the ACLU. June 26, 1997.

We can choose a party and back it all we want on issues of economics and liberty. We may disagree as to the roots of poverty and whether we should do anything about it. We can disagree as to whether people should pay for their own medicine or whether health is a state-given right. We can disagree on isues of taxation and "fairness". We can give a party our vote. When it comes to porn though, they'll vote AGAINST us. They have. They will.

If you want to stand up for porn, you have to stand up everyone that disagrees with it, not just those that may agree with somne of your other politics.
so you are telling me the Liberal's god did something wrong. while he was Wacking off 2 Penthouse.
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