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Old 08-03-2008, 07:22 PM  
Tempest
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Bro, we don't have any rights to that money anyway. A program does everything for you...provides you pre-made hosted galleries and other tools, then we simply link 'em up and make money off of the sale. Fuck, they even send us the damn links in our email because I don't have time to go to the admin area.

You're not getting paid for "traffic", you're getting paid to make a sale to a specific site. Damn. On revshare you're making 50% of the gross. You don't have to pay shit. On the other hand, the program owner is paying for production, hosting, biller costs, and declines and other related credit card bullshit. If it's a $34.99 membership and it's revshare...here is the breakdown:
Affiliate (you): $17.49
Biller costs : $6.12
Program Owner: $$11.38

And that is at 50%. You can do the math yourself to see what happens at 60% and 70% and some of these programs doing 80%

We affiliates are already making the lions share of the money that the site owner did all the work for. Hell, I WANT the site owners to make as much money as they can. I want them to succeed. This is a symbiotic relationship. Neither can survive without the other. Start making it impossible for the paysite to thrive and you end up with a site that doesn't update and starts faltering.

Yeah, I agree that 3 or 4 hidden pre-checks is excessive. And it's our decision on whether to promote those programs.
Sorry dude.. You're on the wrong side of this one and If I remember correctly you're asociated with them so your opinion on this matter doesn't mean much since you're clearly biased.. Nothing you or anyone else says is going to change the minds of revshare affiliates so don't even both trying to justify it.

90% of my sales to $I comes from material I develop myself, not from FHGs.. So please don't tell me I don't have any "rights" to the money they make off the traffic I develop and send to them. They can put cross sales on PPS all they want.. but it's simply a slap in the face to put it on revshare links and then say they're "revenue sharing". They don't want to share the revenue? Then don't offer revenue sharing. I suspect that the majority of their traffic and sales comes from PPS anyway.. And given how few purchacers actually end up paying for cross sells, and even fewer that will atually check the boxes, it just doesn't make sense to alienate revshare affiliates for the few bucks it will actually make.

Regardless, I don't really care since I only do PPS with them as they're not a program I feel comfortable building a long term relationship with for a variety of reasons... But on another board they're on the list of programs that don't pay out true revshare due to cross sells and given what they've done, I don't think they're going to get removed... I'm just letting them know the reality of the situation and they can do whatever they want...
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