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Old 08-22-2008, 09:02 PM  
pocketkangaroo
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Two Words: Search Engine Two More Words:Type Ins

For most programs that will give them all they need pussyserver. Since you're not really in the biz...let me tell you a secret: I've been an affiliate for a little over 10 years. Easiest money I ever made. Granted I had and have my own real traffic from tgps that I own. But let me show you some quick math: If you were an affiliate of mine and someone signed up through your code you make $17.49 on that revshare 50/50 sale. Only it ISN'T really 50/50. Not only do you NOT share the cost of shooting, editing, uploading, updating, hosting...but you also do NOT share the simple cost of billing and when one of your surfers tries to sign up but is declined (yes pusssyserver, we get charged by the credit card processors for that too) Not to mention that when one of your surfers turns out to be a scammer and comes in to download an entire members area for later upload to a tube and then does a chargeback...I not only lose the money on the sale, but then the bank charges ME $55 on top of that.

So no...you will make FAR MORE than 50%...

But be that as it may...out of that $34.99 sale you make $17.49 The biller makes $6.29 I then have a grand profit (after all my real hard work, risk, and actual money put out) of $11.38

BUT, when I get a type in from a search engine? Then my only cost is the biller and I profit $28.87 on that sale.

That is why program owners often throw their hands up in the air over affiliates "demands" and affiliates trying to "share" in every bit of monetization of a paysite. You want to "share" my x-sell or my upsell? Then your ass can "share" in my production costs and declines and chargebacks and hosting.

Does that make sense? As After Shock Media said....It's not all black and white.

I make the majority of my income on my work as an affiliate through my tgps. Takes me a couple of hours a day. The sponsors send me emails full of promo material. I import them into my database, they are cued up to run...done. Easiest money I ever made in my life.

My work with my paysite? I spend 8 to 10 hours a day EVERYDAY working on it. And the challenges never stop.

I'm not whining or crying about anything...but I know that as an affiliate I never realized what it was like on the paysite side. Now I see both sides. I can tell you that being an affiiate is not as difficult as being a paysite owner. Not by a long shot.
And let me tell you a secret, affiliates spend time and money to bring in their traffic. Perhaps some of that isn't as tangible as the cost of a server, but it's still expenses.

Nonetheless, the argument on both sides of the coin are retarded. You don't see American Airlines bitching that the local travel agents aren't paying for the cost of jet fuel. Both sides are profitible business models with pros and cons.

I personally think it's a great time to be an affiliate. Everyone who had a digital camera and wanted some bro status on the boards created their own program. Many with no traffic in their back pocket and little money in the bank. The program market is so oversaturated that companies need to give ridiculous offers to affiliates just to keep them happy. Not to mention that as an affiliate, you can simply swap your sponsor at any time if you have issues with them.

It isn't to say that starting a program is dumb, just that there are a lot of people who have no business starting a program and should have spent their time and money building traffic which will always be profitible.
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