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Old 08-23-2008, 03:31 AM  
Tjeezers
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First, a sponsor is starting a program to get webmaster traffic
As soon they have it, they are going to find sticks to beat us webmasters down

Most program owners were webmasters before, and they are owner cause they are sick of being a tool, ones they are a owner, they use tools to make us sick.

A lot of owners are starting a program to make a future. They actually care about the webmasters, but also have a group of spammers, fakers, scammers, shitters... Those people who make his day bad also affect the group of true webmasters.

etc etc etc bla bla bla

Face it, when you start a program, you probably have a group of webmasters in your contact list to start with, those are probably the 5 % of the 100 who make good sales. You go public and know you get also this other shitty 95% in your list, you wished you never went public, cause you have suddenly a high expensive on the scamms and fuckers.

You can TURN THIS ANYWAY you want, there is always a downside and upside. No matter what, you work with people, and people are tricking you, part of nature. There is a small group of webmasters who have MUCH TO LOOSE, they would not even think about using tricks, they put their good name in risk.

I am an affiliate, send to 160 sponsors, and i have no fear, i do not use cards to get some PPS in my pocket cause i need to pay my rent.

There are 100`s of guys like me, working their ass of to make a HONEST living, and those guys are also irritated by the behavior of many sponsors.
We helped them with starting their program, and soon those owners are on shows selling our fucking traffic to other programs cause they want extra cash...

Anyway, i gave up long ago trusting owners, i see them as a tool, a tool for me to make money with, i have the traffic, they DO NOT have my traffic, or get it in anyway.

We need each other, if this is not a fact, then your probably having a different idea of making money.

Reading how owners are making costs etc etc etc etc and I should be happy i dont have to pay for it, cause my earnings minus his costs would kill my revshare... Man thats just BULLSHIT... You can oversell your content as soon you have a fucking good marketing plan and KNOW how to find the best webmasters. Your movies are probably sold for 1000 times already when you have the Creme of the Creme traffic senders in your pocket.

Anyway, i like how pussyserver stands up for affiliates in this topic, props for that. A guy like me never gets noticed, free tickets for a show, or a cristmas card.

I only get holiday cards from VS, Secretfriends, and AFF....
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