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kane · 08-28-2008, 11:54 PM

I think, in the end, I have to agree with Baddog. I think if he weren't black he may not have run and if he did he may not have gotten out of the primaries. The reason is that race is a factor. In his case he was able to get a lot of vote for either hardcore liberals that wanted someone really different or from blacks and minorities who wanted a black guy. If he were white he wouldn't have offered those options to those people.

I'm not say that his race was the only factor for people voting for him. But if he were a white guy he would just be another well spoken, charismatic white guy, as he is he offers something different.

But back to the question. If he made it to the primaries and was at this exact point and was white I don't know that he would be that much more ahead. I think he would be a little bit ahead because I think there are some people that hold race against him and don't even realize it, but I feel most of the people who won't vote for him because he is black, probably wouldn't have voted for him no matter what color he is.

08-28-2008, 11:54 PM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think, in the end, I have to agree with Baddog. I think if he weren't black he may not have run and if he did he may not have gotten out of the primaries. The reason is that race is a factor. In his case he was able to get a lot of vote for either hardcore liberals that wanted someone really different or from blacks and minorities who wanted a black guy. If he were white he wouldn't have offered those options to those people. I'm not say that his race was the only factor for people voting for him. But if he were a white guy he would just be another well spoken, charismatic white guy, as he is he offers something different. But back to the question. If he made it to the primaries and was at this exact point and was white I don't know that he would be that much more ahead. I think he would be a little bit ahead because I think there are some people that hold race against him and don't even realize it, but I feel most of the people who won't vote for him because he is black, probably wouldn't have voted for him no matter what color he is.