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Old 09-15-2008, 12:08 PM  
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Originally Posted by BV View Post
Doc,

This isn't about me or anyone pushing his site in a normal way.
12clicks wants to put his cross sales on my sites ccbill join forms and other CCBill sites like mine.
The affiliates would not get any credit. only me (sponsor) would make the extra money.
I do not think this is right for obvious reasons.

12clicks suggests that I raise the revshare payout percentage to compensate them.

So what benefit is that to me? none, so i make a few extra bucks from 12clicks cross sales that gets redistributed back to affiliates if i raise the payout.

But now the surfer not only has a membership to my site, he has a membership to 12clicks site or sites (i think he puts 2 cross sales) but i could be wrong on that.

So logic tells me a surfer with 3 memberships is less likely to stay with all 3 than if he had just one.
Just as a note, I think with both of you using ccbill, I think you can now credit your webmasters with the cross sales produced to 12clicks. You don't have to have them pre-checked. I don't know the exact details of everything on this.

The question sounds like it should be, do you want to make the money now or wait 3-6 months? It's the PPS vs Revshare idea, it's what xsales do for PPS. They cover the gap of loss. Or you play the entire xsale game, taking them in and dishing them out, using volume to cover the gap. It takes 3-5 xsales to be worth the value of a real join.

If you do 100 webmaster/inhouse sales a day, a xsale program has to do 300-500 sales a day to be worth the normal program. At this level, it's a choice of which game do you want to play. Both aren't easy.

You would make more by adding xsales, but it isn't going to be something that is mind blowing. You could take xsales - and it would add to your member base, but the money earned isn't squat until you add volume.


So in my opinion, if you are able to keep your head above the float with no issues now, then don't add or take xsales. Don't listen to anyone else but yourself, partners, ect.. I just feel, if you aren't going to play the entire game - then don't play it all, keep your focus.
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