Originally Posted by Mutt

McCain won .......... by not losing. People have long assumed that debates would be an edge for Obama. Obama wasn't as good as people expected and McCain not as bad as people expected - that's a victory for McCain. He was most effective when he talked foreign policy, and his hands on experience - having been in the mountains of Pakistan, having been in Afghanistan while Obama has never been, having looked Putin in the eyes, Vietnam, Kissinger - making Obama look like a naive and nerdy political science student talking about things i.e. stategy vs tactics that he really has no clue about.

i'm for Obama but it was a somewhat disappointing performance by him. He stammered a lot. He lost on Iraq when he seemed to agree with McCain that the US was now winning in Iraq.