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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
Most people using those words don't know what they mean. Socialist, communist, Marxist, etc. They are just repeating what they are told to think.
It shouldn't be a surprise though as many of these people are the ones that haven't opened a biology book to realize the Earth is older than 6,000 years and we have this thing called evolution.
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Reminds me of this republican talking head who was on hardball awhile back talking about "appeasment". He used the word a dozen times before Chris Matthews asked him what he meant by appeasment.
The guy couldn't answer. He went on to mention Chamberlain and the Nazi's, so Matthews asked him what Chamberlain did with the Nazi's.....again, the guy couldn't answer.
This was a professional political operative (or elected official) and he couldn't even define appeasment or explain the mistakes Chamberlain made in dealing with Hitler. So it doesn't suprise me that most of the people posting about this stuff on message boards don't really understand what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted by robfantasy
lets just agree to disagree.
i give up, like i said before if obama was sipping lattes with osama bin laden you would probably want to dispute that he was discussing foreign policy.
its just pointless now.
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Don't presume to tell me what I would or wouldn't be ok with. If video surfaces of Obama having lattes with Osama, I assure you I wouldn't vote for him.
Saying I'm a sheep who believes everything Obama says is ridiculous. Did it ever occur to you that
1) I don't agree with everything Obama wants to do, and
2) I have my own opinions and ideas about what my government should and shouldn't do, and when I get involved in a discussion like this it's because I actually support the policy?
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz
Taxes we pay are supposed to goto maintaining road systems, our defense, paying our politicians, public education, etc etc. Its not meant to be taken from Joe the rich plumber and given as a "tax credit" to Danny the crack dealer. THAT is the difference. Taxes are redistribution of wealth? Maybe in their current form, and that is fucked up.
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Read what I wrote above (if you actually care about the issue as opposed to just spewing out conservative propoganda)
He's not taking money from rich people and giving it to poor people. He's raising rates on the rich and lowering them and/or increasing the credit that lower class and middle class Americans already get. These are people who work and pay taxes (even if they're not "income taxes")
They're going to pay a little bit less, and the wealthy are going to pay a little bit more. (Also, last I checked, Danny the crack dealer probably doesn't file a tax return, so it's not likely that he would benefit from Obama's plan. If you're going to create a straw man, make it a little more realistic next time)
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Just because the Drudge Report acts like it's a huge story by putting it in bold type, doesn't make it so.
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It's really not, nor will it be, a big story.
After they spent a month practically calling him a terrorist, I doubt calling him a socialist is really going to cause much damage.
Also, if you look at the cross tabs in the major polls, Obama is leading by a significant margin on the question of who would be better on taxes. So the republicans really aren't making any headway with this line of attack.