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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
i pay the same. haven't noticed my insurance "sky rocketing"
the problem in "affordable healthcare" has ZERO to do with insurance or hospitals are doctors or anyone in the medical profession.. it has to do with a legal system that is in desperate need of tort reforms.
sorry man, i'm sitting right next to a guy who was the CFO of Blue Cross / Blue Shield for many years. they don't make real profits from what they charge. their margins are very small.
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So all these pill producing companies that charge 1000-5000% more in our Country do it because they got sued?
So you are a younger MALE, with no kids, that doesn?t smoke. Neat.
My wife is a younger women, with 2 kids, and tubes tied. But she gets charged more because she is within a child having age range.
Also, could you punch the blue cross guy in the face. They wouldn?t? cover my kid, even though my wife and my kid could have died from previous medical conditions my wife has. I was basically fined $20,000 for having a kid.
Thank god my wife went to work for a much larger porn company before the 2nd kid came around. They couldn?t deny shit then.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
i object to paying the health insurance of someone who always seems to have nice wheels wheels on their car, the latest designer clothes, all the newest, neatest mobile gadgets but wants to tell me that health care costs too much.
how about people start making common sense shit a priority in their lives? wouldn't that be "CHANGE" .
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So I should live poor because of my wife born medical problems? I can?t have a nice car because I should have to cover the $3,000-$7,000 a month medical costs and the $1000 a month pill cost?
I don?t think you have a clue what Insurance costs once you get sick.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
you're insane. you clearly have zero clue what you are talking about. you are confusing tax rates with what is actually paid.
uhmm.. ok,.. you just out-insaned yourself. if everyone pays 10%... everyone pays 10%. its not real difficult math. .
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23% base or just under 30% on money earned for middle and up. It works out the same, either way. And the poor, can pay less. So if you set it at 10 or 15% - you take more money from the poor and less from the higher incomes.
Problem is, the poor end up paying a higher % of tax, with all taxes added on.
Do I pay less than 23%, hell yes I do. But I own a Company and so can all but the poorest and most disadvantaged Americans can get the same benefits as myself.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
you are stating opinion as fact. .
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My friend, trickle down eco failed. If you wish to accept that or not, is up to you. They forgot one MAJOR factor, and it is the reason it failed?. Greed.
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raising taxes and chasing people offshore as we have been doesn't help the economy either. .
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Only way to change companies from going offshore is to correct what they say the problem is. Healthcare costs. And the fact that capital gains tax is 35%. Why in hell anyone would want to invest in this Country, is clear.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
you seem to have this very marxist attitude about big companies.
i respect your dream. hopefully you will one day live in a society where no one succeeds. where the Microsoft's of the nation aren't there creating 100's of 1000's of jobs across the globe and giving more philanthropically than any organization or private individual ever has in the history of the planet. .
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No no, I want what MS has. I want to be able to suck this Country dry of billions of dollars from the buyers to the people I hire. I want that money to trickle up, from the people to my bank account. And once I have it, I will take their money and open up Companies on other Countries, so I don?t have to pay taxes anymore. Once I do this enough, I will slowly fire all the people that helped me get my billions of dollars, and go hire people for a dime a month.
What a great feeling that will be. Fire hard working people that help build what I have and go hire others for a few dollars a month, and not have to supply health insurance, or work conditions.. Basically, I want slaves like MS has.
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so .. huh? giving to the poor is not giving to the poor? really?.
i am starting to suspect blunt force trauma to the head. feel dizzy? nauseous? tired? vision blurry?
are you sure?
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No really? See you give to the poor, because you want to ?GIVE?? All these guys, bill gates, I?m not even going to list them.
When I want to help charity, I write a check and give it to them and mark that on my taxes, that?s giving to the poor.
When they do it, they use a foundation that they own. Allowing them to take personal money, into a foundation they own, which removes the money from the market. They have to then donate a % to make it legal, and the rest can be invested into things like Gold, which isn?t trackable.
This is using the poor, to pay less tax, actually giving them less than you say you did, and then investing your own money again, tax free, into a market that allows you to be paid back, tax free.