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Old 11-01-2008, 03:01 AM  
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Originally Posted by AlienQ View Post
Ya guys think it is far fetched but it really is not.

California is hardly the only state to have organizations that wish to pull from the Union.
These Organizations have lot's of money they are well financed and have the plans to carry out Separatist politic's that will eventually remove a state from the Union.
Not with blood but with penstrokes.

And should blood arise there are indeed foriegn interests as well.

The USA is not Impregnable, the USA is merely a hodge Podge of territories that merely agree to working within the Union. Disagreeing to work with the Union is not a declaration of war. It is a declaration of non-confidence in the federal system of government.

California power players are about ready to throw down the non confidence card and for people not privy to the reality of the situation face a serious wake up call.
I used to work with a guy that talked like this and told me every week about how things like this were going to happen soon. He would bring me in newsletters and he had bunker and was part of a militia and was teaching his kids "the truth" about the country and preparing them for the soon to come uprising. That was 10 years ago and nothing has happened yet. Sure, there are angry groups. Sure they talk a good game and in the end they do nothing because they are powerless to do anything.

But let's humor ourselves for a minute and say California did jump ship. a rogue group stormed the governors office and something happened and it was going to pull away from the union and suddenly things got bloody and as you said a foreign interest got involved. First off, most of the people in the state would leave. They would flee to other states and if they were forced to stay the state would be in chaos. How many of those that stayed would be willing to fight? Not many I can assure you. They talk tough and have a shotgun then they see a tank and things change. So they would involve other nations. Who? China? Do you really think China would enter into a world war (and that is what you would get) to help California pull away from the union? Not a chance. China is working its ass off to take us over with its money, its not going to jeopardize that with military action. Russia? Yeah because they would love the idea of NATO rushing into their homeland from Europe. Again, if any major country that had enough of a military to actually threaten the US rushed in and fought to defend a pulling away California it would find itself in a world war and for what? A piece of land that will then either be mostly empty or blown to hell and back. If it were a smaller country, say a Venezuela or a Cuba or even an Iran. That country would find itself being bombed back to the stone age. Park a couple of air craft carries off the cost and rain metal of them for awhile and see how that changes a persons mind.

The reality of what would happen if McCain wins is that he would be the lamest of the lame duck presidents in history. The democrats who will control the house and senate (maybe even a filibuster proof 60 seat senate) would make it their mission to see that he got nothing done and he would be forced to play along with them if he wanted anything resembling power. This would cause him to get so pissed he would have stroke around year 2 and we would get president Palin and the senate and congress would have such a tight leash on her she would have to ask permission to shit. And California? They will go on churning out movies and wine and doing what they do.
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