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Originally Posted by SomeCreep
Lol, are you kidding man? I'm sure you know as well as I do, your average pornstar spends all their time partying, snorting coke, and fucking. No way they are capable of running their own sites. The few that do run their own sites only do so because they have someone else doing all the work, usually the poor hubby.
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They are absolutely partying their asses off. But there is no reason that you can't party, snort coke, and fuck...and not make a lot of money. I'm proof of that! LOL!
Seriously, I wasn't implying that they run their own sites. I was saying that IF someone with a creative direction, the skills, the knowledge, and the contacts took those girls and made sites for them with real focus and direction...and didn't have them shooting for every company every day, and protected the content from tubes and torrents, THEN money could be made.
Claudia-Marie wasn't in the adult business at all...except for being with me. I had her shoot for Naughty America in Jan. of 2007 just to see if she could do it. The feedback from their members was through the roof and Mark and Laura wanted her to come back and shoot, shoot, shoot.
But I said no, no, no. And started shooting myself for her own site. We started out with everything I had learned all these years. Having run tgp's since 1998 (real ones, not scripts) I knew what sold and what didn't. So we didn't do any of that softcore bullshit. We went straight to work and competed against the big sites. I had no desire to start another solo girl "Look at me with a dildo for the thousandth time site".
It exploded. Made more money than even I though it could. I was sure that members would get bored with a single girl. Nope. Not when you present it correctly and make sure there is interraction with the girl and the customers. (And that's something that tubes, torrents, and unfortunately megas sites can't do)
In my humble opinion...those girls in Porn Vallery are the equivalent of the true "porn stars" back in the 1970's and 1980's. They are FAR better known than the girls who shoot only for the DVD companies. Nobody buys those anymore. It's all "net" baby.
These girls are seen by millions and millions of people everyday. They are money...but not the way things are now. Right now they are just useless...very hot, but useless for making money.
And as you are saying...they only see that quick $1500 and the next party to go to. I know how that can be. And it's a big time dead end street for them. Claudia-Marie has been in the biz for a little over a year. She doesn't strip. She doesn't hook. She shoots twice a month for her OWN site.
She drives a new corvette, lives in this million dollar house, and doesn't have to worry about money. Recurring billing is a beautiful thing. And yeah, I know the idea is to pay the bitches one time and send 'em on their way to the strip club so they never have a concept of real money.
Well, that could be done too. You could take one and put her under contract. Pay her to shoot 5 days a week and work her ass off. Pay her everytime for every shoot. Almost like a "Contract" girl. But you'd have to real good. And you would have to be able to come up with interesting storylines.
We use a lot of comedy and pure cheesiness. It seems to work great.
Point is, the girls are getting paid their $1500. Production costs are still there for these companies (production crew, location, male talent, 2257, food, drink, etc.) and it's no longer paying off.
A few years ago surfers didn't even realize what an affiliate program is. Now, thanks to the "Webmaster Click Here For $$$" links all over hosted galleries and tours...plus the complete and total STUPIDITY of giving away every secret of the business (what affiilate programs are, what x-sells are, etc. , etc. ) to surfers right here on GFY...well, the surfer now knows the game is afoot.
So as some have said in this thread...to beat the tubes and torrents you have first have something unique that people want. Then you have to protect it.
I can tell you that making sales for the big companies is getting harder and harder and harder to do. Surfers now know how things work. They used to join a site and just stay. They didn't know that the hot girl with the big tits and big round ass was also on 200 other sites fucking too. And now they know she can be found on 200 FREE full scenes on a tube. That's a tough sell. Especially when the surfer can't talk to her on the site he's paying for.
Interraction is a good thing. Can't be duplicated.