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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug
1) Wrong... she actually drew crowds far larger than McCain and as large as Obama on her own. McCain was the drag on the McCain campaign. Without her on the ticket... he would have lost by 10-15%. Like her or not... Palin will be a huge national figure for a long time.
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She drew crowds of hardcore neo-cons that were voting McCain anyways. She wasn't reaching independants. and she was turning of liberal republicans. Don't believe me go look at the vote totals.
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2) He was right. FUNDAMENTALS are strong. That is why GDP was only slightly negative last quarter - far better than expected. AND You are right, in that it was stupid of him to say 'ooops'! He should have stuck to his original statement and offered proof.
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Sounds like sour grapes by you. You still don't get it. REAL people losing REAL jobs and REAL homes don't want a lecture on economics. Even if he was right, that doesn't matter, what people wanted to hear was "I understand your pain and here's what I'm going to do to help" not "It's all in your head, I have charts and numbers to prove it."
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3) YOU ARE absolutely right. He should have fought that pay-off... er um... rescue package all the way - had he done so, he would have caried a huge victory. The conservatives did not vote for him (only 80%) because he is not a conservative. Many conservatives voted for Obama - as they see him as the 2nd coming of Carter - who's fiscal stupidity and TAX INCREASES brought in basically 30 years of conservative rule. The conservatives are counting on Obama to do the same thing.
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So some Americans WANT things to go bad in America? Not very patriotic. I mean what would be so bad if things went great? Because a liberal or a democrat did it? Who fucking cares? That's fucking reatrded to WISH for things to go bad so you can get your guy in ther to make things "good" when youc an have "good" things happen NOW. What kind of retard thinks "I hope I lose my job and home and have to live under bridge for 4 years so a republican can be president in 2013" THEN things can get fixed.
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My thoughts... the US is still, a Right of Center country and very conservative. McCain lost the election because he tried to act too much like a centrist and too little like a conservative.:
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you fail at politics. If he actually been more of a centrist he might have won. Here's a tip, 70% of America is NOT Republican. You will NEVER win an election with 30% of the vote. Get it yet? The GOP needs to tell the Jesus freaks to fuck off and find another party. The fiscally conservative, but socially liberal republicans can get in dependants and conservative democrats to vote for them. That kind of GOP can have success. The jesus freaks need to worry about REAL issues and quit trying to run everyone else's lives. No is forcing them into gay sex or gay marriage. No one is forcing them to have abortions. No one is forcing them to watch porn. if other peopel want thes ething IT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. If they want their kids to see evolution as a myth and creationism as real and have prayer in school they can put them in private school. Or they just take them to church.