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Old 11-08-2008, 11:53 AM  
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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor View Post
We don't pay nearly the taxes that our grandparents or even our parents prior to 1980 paid.
People in every industrialized nation pay taxes, most of them at a far higher rate than we do.

YOU won't be doing anything, this program as I understand it is for young people. I'm sure, as with everything else, there will be lots of exceptions granted for people with hardships that have to work to help their families or as you mentioned earlier people in medical school with a very burdensome curriculum.

As for your second point, why does everyone always think a new program or policy is just the "beginning of something"? Why can't this program just be that, a program, not a first step towards whatever Orwellian thing you fear must be behind this?
Why can't we have a national health care plan without the doomsday sayers complaining about socialism and communism and now the government is going to take over everything?
The list goes on and on.

As for who makes that decision, you do and I do, indirectly, when we vote. The person who directly makes the decision is the person the majority of us voted for.
Because the beginning of every program is always "the beginning of something".

Income taxes were originally created in our country to pay for wars. The Civil War. It has gone back and forth since then about whether it is constitutional or not. The point being, the tax was created to pay for a war that was over 150 years ago and we are still paying it. The money simply got shifted somewhere else. Once you give something, you don't get it back. It's like dealing with a child... if you start letting them eat a cookie every night after dinner, they are going to want a cookie every night after dinner and it's going to take a lot to stop it.

I don't understand why people always compare the United States to "other countries" when trying to defend a point or an opinion. We aren't other countries. We are the United States. We have a lot of laws and policies that we create based on our principles and our ideas, other countries have a lot of laws and policies that they create based on their principles and their ideas. If our principles and our ideas are changing in a fashion that makes our policies change, that's fine. But benchmarking our policies with the policies of other countries really doesn't make sense.

A lot of other countries have mandatory military service. I certainly don't agree with that and will never push for that just because "other countries do it".
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