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Originally Posted by bm bradley
best watch that argument, same could be said for a host of miserable conditions: pedophilia, rapist, serial killers etc..
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That is true. But pedophilia, rape, and murder are crimes against another unwilling participant. Homosexuality is not. To compare the two is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by bm bradley
so taking an age old institution like marriage and perverting to suit their needs is a right? I'm pointing this out to you from the main steam middle america point of view.
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Look at the history of marriage in this country. Women had no rights in the early times. They weren't allowed to divorce and men could beat their asses to a pulp with no punishment. A husband could rape his wife at any hour of the day. A black person was not allowed to marry a white person. Do you want to go back to that? I mean that is the "age old institution" you talk about. Were women and minorities "perverting" marriage to suit their needs?
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Originally Posted by bm bradley
I'm all for gays having civil unions with all the associated rights... why must it be called a marriage? that's the issue in my mind. a marriage is clearly defined by society and has been since it all started. why must we allow gays to subvert that?
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It has never been clearly defined since it started. Read up on the history of marriage. It has changed a lot over time.
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Originally Posted by bm bradley
why should the Christians and others who view marriage vows as something 'holy' have their faith attacked? believe me when I tell you that homos taking marriage vows is confronting the moral majority right down to their 'nuts'. who gave gays that right?
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How is that attacking their faith? They are free to continue to get married in churches, have their ceremonies, and do whatever they want. No one is taking that away from them. We are talking about legal marriage by the government, not a ceremony a church has. Seperation of church and state, remember? The church should have absolutely nothing to do with a government document that gives individuals certain classifications.