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Originally Posted by Darkland
All this talk that has been occupying the board lately about the economic crisis, nafta, or any other government conspiracy accomplishes nothing other than to occupy your time while things fall apart around you.
Now I am all for a good debate, but what is the point of debating and bickering and cringing behind your keyboards and waiting for the world to end?
If you see something wrong in the world around you, YOUR world, then I don't think sniveling on a board is going to change anything. It is almost as bad as ignoring the problems altogether. If you see something in the world around you and you don't lift a finger to actually try to change it, then what is the point of even complaining about it or worrying about it because as you point out, it is here and it is happening.
And I know some will say, but I AM doing something, I am spreading the word... Well, you're not. All you are doing is trying to get more people to see things the way you do, but fail to give them the tools required to do anything with that info other than to do what you just did. Paint more scary pictures to try and scare the shit out of people.
Fear mongering comes in many forms, but the dibilitating effects always amount to the same. And that is inaction or outright disbelief.
Everyone already knows the world is a scary place and if it is as bad as you think it is, and you only offer prognostic fear instead of real solutions for change you are simply rushing the process of decay.
The worst of these offenders is the "Conspiracy Theorist" who heaps up large doses of fear with no real solutions. In a thesis, I proposed that their efforts might actually be self defeating. Here is an excerpt:
"What if conspiracy theories are actually planted information, using the theorist as a tool for dissemination and disaccreditation? The conspiracy, while inherently true, is presented in such a manner as to allow the average citizen to dismiss it out of hand by the absurdity of its nature and the people who claim it to be true.
Most conspiracy theorists have only the short sighted focus of the problem at hand, or the end result of the conspiracy. Just as a doctor merely treats the symptom rather than the cause, a conspiracy theorist only draws a conclusion, never a solution...."
If you don't like the picture before you, don't bitch about, simply change it. 
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I agree with what you are saying, however .. how are we gonna do something until we discuss things and establish whether there is a actually a real threat?
if we even discuss what's going on, if it doesn't represent the pretty pictures like Malicious biz was posting we're called crazy and told to shut up, ridiculed by those too lazy to have a look around before just believing everything is okay.
The people need to develop an anger, and say collectively ( or at least as somewhat of a group ) that we are going to take action..
Do you suggest that one of us storms the white house? I know how that will end
"A Conspiracy freak was shot while trying to storm Washington today, Story at 11"
And yeah, perhaps we need a few 1 man armies dying in order to show the people that their thoughts are NOT crazy, and the US is FUCKED , and that we can do something if we band together and take back the country.
trust me, I know what you're saying .. everyone that I've spoken to offline about such things already thinks I'm crazy ( which could ultimately lead to them thinking these things are my crazy imagination ) .. however they don't think I'm crazy about this at all.
You're gonna see some people start to take action as anger builds.. blood shed is going to happen, I think at this point it's inevitable.
I do think we have the right to discuss all this before taking action though, We are informing people, and eventually ( I hope not too late ) the people will come together and take back what is rightfully theirs.
The solution is an overthrowing of these theives in congress, and taking things back.
Re-establishing the US on the same principals it was developed on, the constitution.. do you suggest I head down there by myself and do this?
People are about to begin protesting in the streets, these actions by congress and the US gov WILL bring action, the question is when.