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Old 11-26-2008, 07:06 AM  
jwerd
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Originally Posted by Darkland View Post
All this talk that has been occupying the board lately about the economic crisis, nafta, or any other government conspiracy accomplishes nothing other than to occupy your time while things fall apart around you.

Now I am all for a good debate, but what is the point of debating and bickering and cringing behind your keyboards and waiting for the world to end?

If you see something wrong in the world around you, YOUR world, then I don't think sniveling on a board is going to change anything. It is almost as bad as ignoring the problems altogether. If you see something in the world around you and you don't lift a finger to actually try to change it, then what is the point of even complaining about it or worrying about it because as you point out, it is here and it is happening.

And I know some will say, but I AM doing something, I am spreading the word... Well, you're not. All you are doing is trying to get more people to see things the way you do, but fail to give them the tools required to do anything with that info other than to do what you just did. Paint more scary pictures to try and scare the shit out of people.

Fear mongering comes in many forms, but the dibilitating effects always amount to the same. And that is inaction or outright disbelief.

Everyone already knows the world is a scary place and if it is as bad as you think it is, and you only offer prognostic fear instead of real solutions for change you are simply rushing the process of decay.

The worst of these offenders is the "Conspiracy Theorist" who heaps up large doses of fear with no real solutions. In a thesis, I proposed that their efforts might actually be self defeating. Here is an excerpt:

"What if conspiracy theories are actually planted information, using the theorist as a tool for dissemination and disaccreditation? The conspiracy, while inherently true, is presented in such a manner as to allow the average citizen to dismiss it out of hand by the absurdity of its nature and the people who claim it to be true.

Most conspiracy theorists have only the short sighted focus of the problem at hand, or the end result of the conspiracy. Just as a doctor merely treats the symptom rather than the cause, a conspiracy theorist only draws a conclusion, never a solution...."

If you don't like the picture before you, don't bitch about, simply change it.
We are so desynthesized now. When we see a blast on TV, or we hear about more people having unfair trials it's just like water off our backs. People are starting to just accept that we are going to have a shitty economy, unemployment is going to continue to sky rocket, and if they hear any truth behind the Fed, they still want to bitch about what Bush did and not what Obama will continue to do. Bickering on a board isn't helpful at the least, but I did ask for solutions. I want to know what WE can do now. Not what we could do 100 years from now.

I think the peaceful way we are doing things now and waking more people up to this is working, but whether or not it is quick enough is another story. People are just happy that we've changed from one puppet to another, forgetting that this puppet also supports more of the same policies of Bush, and now with a house, congress and senate majority dems he's gonna get shit done Bush couldn't. I have no faith in our system anymore and I'm tired of everyone talking about our "personal savior".

We've been played yet again, but if we look around, we aren't just taking it while lying down anymore. We are making progress peacefully, but we are all sheep as well, waiting for a solution that we can all agree on. That's the problem I see today.
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