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  • DebsDeep
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    • Feb 2003
    • 2649

    #1

    All this Ibill talk, I have a bad check here

    From them...hahaha
    Wonder if it would clear now
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  • Juicy D. Links
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    contact that Rodrigo dude

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    • DebsDeep
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      • Feb 2003
      • 2649

      #3
      I dont think they have anymoney to pay us that are owed
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      • Wizzo
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        • Nov 2000
        • 15224

        #4
        Rodrigo will be with you shortly, please hold...
        Looking for Opportunity!

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        • SomeCreep
          :glugglug
          • Mar 2003
          • 26118

          #5
          Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
          From them...hahaha
          Wonder if it would clear now
          It's valid money, but only if you're playing Monopoly.


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          • DebsDeep
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            • Feb 2003
            • 2649

            #6
            Originally posted by Wizzo
            Rodrigo will be with you shortly, please hold...
            been holding since 04 Shall I wait longer? LOL Lemme think
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            • LeRoy
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              #7
              Didnt they buy a fat ride for a "C"guy?
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              • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                • Nov 2005
                • 349

                #8
                DeepThroat I investigated your account and it showes a outstanding balance of -$24.98 so you need to send us the money owed.

                Sorry for confusion this has caused I would love to send you a Ipod with a Itunes gift card for your troubles
                AIM: RodrigoIbills
                Senior Customer Accusations Director
                Ibills the best billing solution out there
                I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                • gooddomains
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 10127

                  #9
                  I trhow in a few ones

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                  • HorseShit
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 17513

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                    DeepThroat I investigated your account and it showes a outstanding balance of -$24.98 so you need to send us the money owed.

                    Sorry for confusion this has caused I would love to send you a Ipod with a Itunes gift card for your troubles
                    Thanks for taking care of it Rod, I couldn't even locate their account

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                    • DebsDeep
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 2649

                      #11
                      Shit you send me



                      How about this...there is your bad check....
                      And i wont whoop your ass for your troubles
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                      • DebsDeep
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        #12
                        is that a bad check i see
                        wow it is, must be the dumass is lieing...whoa no shit
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                        • DebsDeep
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #13
                          nothing more to say? I would shut my mouth too
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                          • polish_aristocrat
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 40377

                            #14
                            This situation requires apparently extraordinary measures.

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                            • Pipecrew
                              Master of Gfy.com
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 14888

                              #15
                              Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                              nothing more to say? I would shut my mouth too
                              Work it out with Rodrigo, I had the same issue and got a 50" flat screen for my troubles.

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                                #16
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                                • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                  • Nov 2005
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                  nothing more to say? I would shut my mouth too
                                  When should we expect the check for 35 Dollars back?
                                  AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                  Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                  Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                  I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                  • Rodrigo-Ibills
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 349

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                    Shit you send me



                                    How about this...there is your bad check....
                                    And i wont whoop your ass for your troubles
                                    that is a photshopped pic , please deepthroat do not fool Rodrigo
                                    AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                    Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                    Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                    I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                    • CIVMatt
                                      Amateur Pimpin
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 13075

                                      #19
                                      Rodrigo looks like my Uncle... freaky
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                                      • DebsDeep
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 2649

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                                        When should we expect the check for 35 Dollars back?
                                        As soon as my bank releases the funds, its out of my hands right now....
                                        the MINUTE the release them you will get it.

                                        If not I will offer you a promisary note, 2 payments over two years.

                                        Wait I have one of those from ibill also...should i scan that too.

                                        lol...what a joke
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                                        • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 349

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                          As soon as my bank releases the funds, its out of my hands right now....
                                          the MINUTE the release them you will get it.

                                          If not I will offer you a promisary note, 2 payments over two years.

                                          Wait I have one of those from ibill also...should i scan that too.

                                          lol...what a joke
                                          would you like a Itunes gift card at least?
                                          AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                          Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                          Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                          I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                          • DebsDeep
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                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 2649

                                            #22
                                            its not photo chopped, I didnt post the whole check because it has steve markelys signature on it and the acct number...I know we arent suppose to post personal info here. I dont want to get banned. I need to be able to make sure that check shows in every ibill post everywhere.

                                            Not worth the 15K you owe me but hey its better than nothing
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                                            • DebsDeep
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                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 2649

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                                              would you like a Itunes gift card at least?
                                              yes i would
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                                              • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 349

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                                its not photo chopped, I didnt post the whole check because it has steve markelys signature on it and the acct number...I know we arent suppose to post personal info here. I dont want to get banned. I need to be able to make sure that check shows in every ibill post everywhere.

                                                Not worth the 15K you owe me but hey its better than nothing

                                                I checked the records and that check is a photochop
                                                AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                • HorseShit
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 17513

                                                  #25
                                                  Deb take the itunes gift card and shut up

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                                                  • DebsDeep
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                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 2649

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                                                    I checked the records and that check is a photochop
                                                    nope sorry dummy...
                                                    its as real as it gets
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                                                    • AaliyahLove
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                                                      • Apr 2008
                                                      • 2722

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                                                      When should we expect the check for 35 Dollars back?
                                                      This thread is making me laugh so hard my stomache hurts. I'm a newbie and I see what's going on here.. humor and sarcasm is lost on so many people its sad.. but thanx for making me laugh!


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                                                      • DebsDeep
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                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 2649

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AaliyahLove
                                                        This thread is making me laugh so hard my stomache hurts. I'm a newbie and I see what's going on here.. humor and sarcasm is lost on so many people its sad.. but thanx for making me laugh!

                                                        yeh its funny as hell huh...this guy thinks hes a real comedy act.
                                                        I dont have anything else to do right now and by the looks hes free 24/7
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                                                        • jwerd
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                                                          • Jun 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          Rodrigo, did you receive my Cease and Decease letter?
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                                                          • Rodrigo-Ibills
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                            • 349

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                                            nope sorry dummy...
                                                            its as real as it gets
                                                            Our forensics team has validated that it is indeed a photCHOP...


                                                            Any more hostility and NO ITUNES STORE GIFT CARD
                                                            AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                            Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                            Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                            I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                            • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                              • 349

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by lamerhooD
                                                              Rodrigo, did you receive my Cease and Decease letter?


                                                              Jenns Van Ass our CEO is taking it up with legal dept
                                                              AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                              Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                              Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                              I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                              • HorseShit
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                                                                • Dec 2004
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                                                                #32

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                                                                • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                                                  yeh its funny as hell huh...this guy thinks hes a real comedy act.
                                                                  I dont have anything else to do right now and by the looks hes free 24/7

                                                                  deepthroater when will you be sending us monies owed?

                                                                  You chances at the Itunes gift card are getting smaller
                                                                  AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                                  Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                                  Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                                  I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                                  • DebsDeep
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                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 2649

                                                                    #34
                                                                    wow you are stupid holy crap
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                                                                    • roxyxxx
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      what a fucking joke!

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                                                                      • DebsDeep
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 2649

                                                                        #36
                                                                        told ya when the bank realeases the funds...you dont want a promissary note?

                                                                        I PROMISE i will pay you
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                                                                        • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                                                          • Nov 2005
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                                                          wow you are stupid holy crap

                                                                          last chance before I relinquesh my offer for Itunes gift card
                                                                          AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                                          Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                                          Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                                          I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                                          • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                                                            • Nov 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by roxyxxx
                                                                            what a fucking joke!
                                                                            Please do not make fun of Deb
                                                                            AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                                            Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                                            Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                                            I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                                            • Rodrigo-Ibills
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 349

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by AaliyahLove
                                                                              This thread is making me laugh so hard my stomache hurts. I'm a newbie and I see what's going on here.. humor and sarcasm is lost on so many people its sad.. but thanx for making me laugh!

                                                                              I am just trying to do my job and this DeepThroat chick is hostile
                                                                              AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                                              Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                                              Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                                              I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                                              • AaliyahLove
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                                                                                • Apr 2008
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                                                                yeh its funny as hell huh...this guy thinks hes a real comedy act.
                                                                                I dont have anything else to do right now and by the looks hes free 24/7
                                                                                Well, I for 1 GOT the joke and am laughing my ass off..

                                                                                I think Ibill should send ME an itunes card!


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                                                                                • Rodrigo-Ibills
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 349

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by AaliyahLove
                                                                                  Well, I for 1 GOT the joke and am laughing my ass off..

                                                                                  I think Ibill should send ME an itunes card!
                                                                                  Yes I will send you Ipod also , also please enter our 50 TV giveaway at internext and stop by our booth (Dont Bring KB cause we just fire him )
                                                                                  AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                                                  Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                                                  Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                                                  I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                                                  • jawanda
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                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 6040

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    This thread kicks ass.

                                                                                    :2cents

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                                                                                    • HorseShit
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 17513

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      (9:23:09 PM) 112001033: lol
                                                                                      (9:23:10 PM) 112001033: ok
                                                                                      (9:23:29 PM) 112001033: As soon as ibill pays me its yours
                                                                                      (9:23:41 PM) 240208: check is in the mail
                                                                                      (9:23:46 PM) 112001033: I know
                                                                                      (9:23:58 PM) 112001033: Just seems to take forever to get here
                                                                                      (9:24:11 PM) 240208: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=875509
                                                                                      (9:25:08 PM) 112001033: oh thats bullshit
                                                                                      (9:25:13 PM) 112001033: thats not his
                                                                                      (9:25:24 PM) 112001033: whoever he is he should find something to day
                                                                                      (9:25:28 PM) 112001033: todo
                                                                                      (9:25:42 PM) 112001033: Want me to post my rolls
                                                                                      (9:25:50 PM) 112001033: I bet he had a mountain bike
                                                                                      (9:26:17 PM) 240208: what are you talking about
                                                                                      (9:26:22 PM) 240208: that's my beamer
                                                                                      (9:26:43 PM) 112001033: i thought that was rodrigos post
                                                                                      (9:26:50 PM) 112001033: you dont work for ibil
                                                                                      (9:26:55 PM) 240208: yeah yeah
                                                                                      (9:27:04 PM) 240208: im in a behind the scenes marketing guru
                                                                                      (9:27:06 PM) 240208: for them
                                                                                      (9:27:11 PM) 240208: now shooosh
                                                                                      (9:27:14 PM) 112001033: uh huh
                                                                                      (9:27:45 PM) 112001033: ok well i am gonna go get something to eat
                                                                                      (9:27:47 PM) 112001033: have fun
                                                                                      (9:27:56 PM) 112001033: play nice now
                                                                                      (9:28:00 PM) 112001033: :-)
                                                                                      (9:28:04 PM) 240208: no come back
                                                                                      (9:28:09 PM) 240208: we have lots to talk about
                                                                                      (9:28:12 PM) 112001033: yeh?
                                                                                      (9:28:15 PM) 112001033: like?
                                                                                      (9:28:20 PM) 112001033: I am hungry
                                                                                      (9:28:30 PM) 240208: is this deb?
                                                                                      (9:28:34 PM) 112001033: no
                                                                                      (9:28:38 PM) 240208: or her weird husband
                                                                                      (9:28:50 PM) 112001033: her wierd husband
                                                                                      (9:28:52 PM) 240208: oh we have nothing to talk about i was going to cyber with deb
                                                                                      (9:28:56 PM) 112001033: ok
                                                                                      (9:28:57 PM) 112001033: bye

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                                                                                      • Rodrigo-Ibills
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                                        • 349

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by jdavis
                                                                                        (9:23:09 PM) 112001033: lol
                                                                                        (9:23:10 PM) 112001033: ok
                                                                                        (9:23:29 PM) 112001033: As soon as ibill pays me its yours
                                                                                        (9:23:41 PM) 240208: check is in the mail
                                                                                        (9:23:46 PM) 112001033: I know
                                                                                        (9:23:58 PM) 112001033: Just seems to take forever to get here
                                                                                        (9:24:11 PM) 240208: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=875509
                                                                                        (9:25:08 PM) 112001033: oh thats bullshit
                                                                                        (9:25:13 PM) 112001033: thats not his
                                                                                        (9:25:24 PM) 112001033: whoever he is he should find something to day
                                                                                        (9:25:28 PM) 112001033: todo
                                                                                        (9:25:42 PM) 112001033: Want me to post my rolls
                                                                                        (9:25:50 PM) 112001033: I bet he had a mountain bike
                                                                                        (9:26:17 PM) 240208: what are you talking about
                                                                                        (9:26:22 PM) 240208: that's my beamer
                                                                                        (9:26:43 PM) 112001033: i thought that was rodrigos post
                                                                                        (9:26:50 PM) 112001033: you dont work for ibil
                                                                                        (9:26:55 PM) 240208: yeah yeah
                                                                                        (9:27:04 PM) 240208: im in a behind the scenes marketing guru
                                                                                        (9:27:06 PM) 240208: for them
                                                                                        (9:27:11 PM) 240208: now shooosh
                                                                                        (9:27:14 PM) 112001033: uh huh
                                                                                        (9:27:45 PM) 112001033: ok well i am gonna go get something to eat
                                                                                        (9:27:47 PM) 112001033: have fun
                                                                                        (9:27:56 PM) 112001033: play nice now
                                                                                        (9:28:00 PM) 112001033: :-)
                                                                                        (9:28:04 PM) 240208: no come back
                                                                                        (9:28:09 PM) 240208: we have lots to talk about
                                                                                        (9:28:12 PM) 112001033: yeh?
                                                                                        (9:28:15 PM) 112001033: like?
                                                                                        (9:28:20 PM) 112001033: I am hungry
                                                                                        (9:28:30 PM) 240208: is this deb?
                                                                                        (9:28:34 PM) 112001033: no
                                                                                        (9:28:38 PM) 240208: or her weird husband
                                                                                        (9:28:50 PM) 112001033: her wierd husband
                                                                                        (9:28:52 PM) 240208: oh we have nothing to talk about i was going to cyber with deb
                                                                                        (9:28:56 PM) 112001033: ok
                                                                                        (9:28:57 PM) 112001033: bye


                                                                                        is she sending the money she owes?
                                                                                        AIM: RodrigoIbills
                                                                                        Senior Customer Accusations Director
                                                                                        Ibills the best billing solution out there
                                                                                        I am Rodrigos and you take that to the banks!

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                                                                                        • BusterBunny
                                                                                          perverted justice decoy
                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                          • 19291

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                                                                                          is she sending the money she owes?
                                                                                          j absolved the debt for the cyber session then debs hubby reneged on the deal they now owe $70
                                                                                          Last edited by BusterBunny; 12-15-2008, 05:43 PM.
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                                                                                          • HorseShit
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                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 17513

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            deeptroat sessions are in place for ibill employees

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                                                                                            • jwerd
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                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 1953

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rodrigo-Ibill
                                                                                              Jenns Van Ass our CEO is taking it up with legal dept
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                                                                                              • Bake
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I'm unsure if it's sad or funny
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                                                                                                • BV
                                                                                                  wtf
                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  lol45678

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                                                                                                  • sicone
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                                    • 18453

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Bake
                                                                                                    I'm unsure if it's sad or funny
                                                                                                    A bit of both I'd say

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