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Old 12-18-2008, 02:06 PM  
Tom_PM
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Originally Posted by EthnicLover View Post
I find it interesting that not one person referred to "this man" by his real name, Muntader al-Zaidi. I think that says a lot about our perspective on Iraqi's.

Also, I do agree that al-Zaidi could have expressed his dislike for Bush in another way. However, considering that his country was invaded more than five years ago in a preemptive manner and thousands of Iraqi's have died as a direct result, I can understand his desire to take advantage of being so physically close to Bush. I don't condone it but I do empathize with him.

The Bush doctrine:

"The security environment confronting the United States today is radically different from what we have faced before. Yet the first duty of the United States Government remains what it always has been: to protect the American people and American interests. It is an enduring American principle that this duty obligates the government to anticipate and counter threats, using all elements of national power, before the threats can do grave damage. The greater the threat, the greater is the risk of inaction – and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves, even if uncertainty remains as to the time and place of the enemy’s attack. There are few greater threats than a terrorist attack with WMD.

To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act preemptively in exercising our inherent right of self-defense. The United States will not resort to force in all cases to preempt emerging threats. Our preference is that nonmilitary actions succeed. And no country should ever use preemption as a pretext for aggression."


http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss/2002/index.html

I am truly shocked that you have the audacity to tell Iraqi's to "get civilized" considering the aforementioned.

I agree that this war was 100% entirely ill conceived, it was pushed *ON* 9/11/2001 and I've commented innumerable times on the illegitimacy of it, including providing links to excellent documentaries and other sources over the years. The idea of invading was also pushed to REAGAN by most of the same neo cons. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Bush 1 and others. Reagan essentially laughed them out of office. They couldnt WAIT for a new chance IMHO.

NONE of that excuses the absolutely foolish and indefensible action that this reporter took when he let his personal anger at the idiot we know as Dubya, who also just happens to be holding one of the more important offices on the planet.

It's kinda that simple.

If this was fantasy world, I'd say rah rah too for slapping W with a size 12 or two also. I just happen to take it seriously thats all. Very un-GFY of me, but there ya go.

edit: oh and by the way, I'm not telling Iraqi's in some general sense to get civilized. I'm telling this reporter and other hot heads like him to think twice and react in an appropriate way when you're in the room with people who hold office such as visiting dignitaries and presidents and prime ministers, and oh by the way your OWN president.. I mean come on.

Just imagine some other hot head taking advantage of being in the same room.. except they had a bomb or a gun or a knife. Not trivial at all.
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