Originally Posted by Darkland

Congrats, you're both fucking idiots... I am talking about the "old timers" that DID something for this industry BEFORE it started going down the shitter. Not sure how you're equating what I said to the entire playing field of the industry. I consider ONLY people who have been doing this awhile AND successful as old timers. I have been at this since 1998 and things were much different then, much BETTER.

These suppossed "old timers" YOU are refering to are actual noobs in my eyes and are the ones that started trashing our house. And from what I have seen the newbies of today aren't or haven't exactly been a boon or a godsend to the industry. The only thing they seem to succeed in doing is finding inventive new ways to scam the surfer or the content producers all the while attacking each other at will on message boards or the like. Not all the noobs but alot of them.

And as far as what ground work? Wake the fuck up... The old timers who champion our cause that allow us to do this for a living. For the people who started allowing us to process our businesses online through them and catered to our needs. All the old timers who set the bar or were willing to show what works and what doesn't, ie. experience.

There is not a single successful noob that didn't get help or advice from at least one old timer or someone else who did. I don't care how smart you are, you don't just say one day, "Hey, I think I will work in the Adult Internet Arena." And become a success without asking questions or reading a book that an "old timer" offered.