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johnnysoporno · 01-01-2009, 08:13 PM

This is a repost of something I've shared on many public forums which has helped an awful lot of guys not make total tools of themselves

Why would a guy WANT to sleep with a Porn Star?

I've been to bed with maybe a hundred professional pornstars in the last decade or so, non-commercially... and in EVERY CASE, the question as to whether-or-not to do so was weighed individually.

I'm a strong proponent of 'sexual professionalism' - but to be frank, eighty-plus percent of porn performers are simply 'too broken' for me to wish to engage in even playful sex with them...

If a girl is making porn for 'the right reasons' then I'm all over it!
But tragically, very few actually are....

The 'right reasons' are because she loves sex, loves being watched having sex, and gets off on BEING a Porn Star.

What about exposure to diseases?

I must say, the degree of sexual playfulness amongst pros is intense and amazing, and the comfort that everyone has a current (less than 30 days old) full-spectrum STD result PUBLISHED ONLINE (via aim-med.org) is incredibly liberating and confidence building!

The Adult Industry Medical centers are all linked-in to one-another, sharing test results to prevent outbreaks. The monthly HIV etc tests are not the 'ELIZA' style anti-body tests, but instead are EXTREMELY accurate PCR/DNA tests which provide results overnight, and can detect infection within DAYS of first exposure.

Because everyone in the business MUST have their STD status available for the producers and their co-stars, there is FANATICAL dedication to never taking a chance on losing the ability to work (which continues until they have two consecutive 'clean' test results) or having the stigma of being SO DISRESPECTFUL of your peers that you haven't considered THEIR CAREERS ALSO.

You can't catch an STD from someone who doesn't have one, even without condoms!

Also, though I am BY NO MEANS advocating reckless behavior, the odds against a man's contracting HIV through heterosexual sex EVEN IF THE WOMAN HAS AIDS, and you have intercourse (vaginal, oral, or anal) WITHOUT A CONDOM.... about 2000:1 against.

I'll say that once more:
FOR A MAN, THE CHANCE OF INFECTION IS 2000:1 AGAINST! (.05%) EVEN IF YOU HAVE NON-CONDOM SEX WITH A WOMAN WHO HAS AIDS.

Obviously, it approaches ZERO if you use condoms, even if your partner is infected!

And of course, your likelihood of infection drops to NONE if your partner doesn't have HIV/AIDS...

Check TABLE 1 (page 9) of this report from the Center for Disease Control for verification:
www cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/RR/RR5402.pdf

Why are Porn Stars different from any other hot girls in clubs?

Ok, you need to recognize that sexually-confident superhotties like premium Porn Stars are DIFFERENT from your 'typical 9+' types you might find out in clubland in that they accept their sexual-attractiveness as a given.

Normal 'Club Girls' are generally NOT self-confident, and usually have pretty low self-esteem. They are actually IN the club in the first place to get VALIDATION from guys because of their looks.

Even if they DESCRIBE themselves as models, or have a models' portfolio card (Z-card) to hand out, they most-likely haven't ever had the courage OR the look necessary to really BE a professional model... and since that has meant that they've taken jobs as hair salon receptionists, dental hygienists, veterinary assistance, or whatever... they desperately seek out mens' attention to re-affirm them of their desirability.

Contrarily, Porn Stars, Spokes-Models, Photo Models, and Exotic Dancers fall into the category of "PROFESSIONALLY BEAUTIFUL GIRLS" and tend to have a different attitude; they ALREADY have all the validation they need, based on their looks - so 'negging' [giving double-edged compliments] falls on deaf ears, as well as do banal compliments.

The hottest women you'll run into basically ANYWHERE will only really here about two things from your average guy: Either HOW BEAUTIFUL SHE IS, or HOW IMPRESSIVE HE IS!

With women like these, the only impressive quality which truly matters is demonstrating your own self-comfort, and through that, the acceptance of their beauty as merely a component of their "interestingness" to you.

You must NEVER appear star-struck, or overwhelmed by their hotness or beauty! It must be obvious to them that you are undaunted by their popularity, their fame, or their sex appeal.

You'll need to engage them in conversations about things WHICH INTEREST THEM - and the easiest and most certain way to do that is by DEMONSTRATING HAPPY CURIOSITY - in other words, being light and playful and INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, encouraging them to keep describing the things which they wish to talk about through asking insightful and INTERESTED questions.
[This is true for MOST beautiful women, and most women and men in general, but amongst the top-tier of sexiness, they almost never get to talk about their own interests!]

Forget trying to come off as 'Cocky & Funny' here - instead, Playful & Confident wins the day!

Remember always: BE CURIOUS, accepting, and appreciative. The LONGER you keep them talking about the things THEY like to talk about (themselves, their interests, their thoughts and positions on things and people) the MORE ATTRACTIVE you'll become.

Look at Howard Stern, or any talk-show host - they are NOT nice to look at, BUT because they know how to keep someone talking about themselves, and they know how to LISTEN ATTENTIVELY AND ACTIVELY encouraging the speaker to continue speaking, they are COMPELLINGLY ATTRACTIVE.

You need to BE OKAY with their career choice: Respectful, yet not in-awe.

Demonstrate that you offer them 'non-judgmental acceptance' combined with sincere appreciation, and they will ADORE you for it.

(If you haven't come-to-comfort with the notion that women should be able to make their own decisions about with-whom and why they go to bed, or you are still caught-up believing a woman is 'a slut' or undesirable because she's INTO SEX, then please check out my Seductive Reasoning seminar, available for free from SeductiveReasoning.com)

Once they know they can open-up to you, and share their intimate emotional and cerebral aspects with you, they will rapidly transfer that sense of comfort and security into their carnal and visceral centers - and they will open-up other aspect of themselves

THINGS WHICH WILL HELP:

Porn Stars, Spokes-Models, photo-models are 'WITH' agencies, they don't work FOR the agency - and actually, the agency is supposed to be working FOR THEM (which is why THEY pay the agent!) so you might ask "What agency are you with?"

For the most-part, MOST girls have worked with at least a couple of them if they have been in 'The Industry' for more than a couple of months... This makes for GOOD CONVERSATIONS!

Each Agency is known by the first-name of the owner/operator...

"Oh, you work with Derek?" "Is Joel the first agent you've worked with?" "How do you get along with September?" "Did you work with Kevin back when he was with Derek?" -

The Agencies are VERY incestuous and competitive... so it's fun to pick up on the gossip. Most of the people working at the agencies themselves have worked in other aspects of The Industry, and often for competing agents!

(For EXTRA industry gossip, visit lukeisback.com or LukeFord.com, but BE CAUTIOUS, a lot of Talent don't keep tabs on these tabloid-sites, and some people will get plenty mad at you for telling unpleasant them things about people they like!)

Every girl will have something positive to say about her current agency, and something negative (usually many things!) to say about her previous one(s)...

Other good non-contentious subjects:

"Have you shot any fun scenes lately?"
"Has the economy slowed you down much?"
"Who's your favorite Male-Talent you've worked with so far?" ("Talent" is used in place of 'actor/actress/performer') A follow up might be "Cool! Is there anyone you've really wanted to work with, but haven't yet?" and follow THAT with "Ok, what is it about SoandSo that gets you so hot?"...

"Have you had to put anyone/many people on your "No!" list yet?" (a No! list is the guys she won't work with, which the agents all respect)

"Do you prefer shooting Gonzo, or do you like features too?" (Gonzo is sex-only, no real storyline, no need for scripts - "features" are much higher production-value shoots, might require SOME acting - but take 3-5 hours longer for no extra pay!)

These topics will give you a appearance of knowing something about the production-side of things.... if they ask how you know, just tell 'em you're a friend of mine

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy - Porn Czar

P.S. I'll update this whenever I think of anything else to add!

01-01-2009, 08:13 PM
johnnysoporno Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, Cananda Posts: 13	Picking Up Pornstars - a Field Guide! This is a repost of something I've shared on many public forums which has helped an awful lot of guys not make total tools of themselves Why would a guy WANT to sleep with a Porn Star? I've been to bed with maybe a hundred professional pornstars in the last decade or so, non-commercially... and in EVERY CASE, the question as to whether-or-not to do so was weighed individually. I'm a strong proponent of 'sexual professionalism' - but to be frank, eighty-plus percent of porn performers are simply 'too broken' for me to wish to engage in even playful sex with them... If a girl is making porn for 'the right reasons' then I'm all over it! But tragically, very few actually are.... The 'right reasons' are because she loves sex, loves being watched having sex, and gets off on BEING a Porn Star. What about exposure to diseases? I must say, the degree of sexual playfulness amongst pros is intense and amazing, and the comfort that everyone has a current (less than 30 days old) full-spectrum STD result PUBLISHED ONLINE (via aim-med.org) is incredibly liberating and confidence building! The Adult Industry Medical centers are all linked-in to one-another, sharing test results to prevent outbreaks. The monthly HIV etc tests are not the 'ELIZA' style anti-body tests, but instead are EXTREMELY accurate PCR/DNA tests which provide results overnight, and can detect infection within DAYS of first exposure. Because everyone in the business MUST have their STD status available for the producers and their co-stars, there is FANATICAL dedication to never taking a chance on losing the ability to work (which continues until they have two consecutive 'clean' test results) or having the stigma of being SO DISRESPECTFUL of your peers that you haven't considered THEIR CAREERS ALSO. You can't catch an STD from someone who doesn't have one, even without condoms! Also, though I am BY NO MEANS advocating reckless behavior, the odds against a man's contracting HIV through heterosexual sex EVEN IF THE WOMAN HAS AIDS, and you have intercourse (vaginal, oral, or anal) WITHOUT A CONDOM.... about 2000:1 against. I'll say that once more: FOR A MAN, THE CHANCE OF INFECTION IS 2000:1 AGAINST! (.05%) EVEN IF YOU HAVE NON-CONDOM SEX WITH A WOMAN WHO HAS AIDS. Obviously, it approaches ZERO if you use condoms, even if your partner is infected! And of course, your likelihood of infection drops to NONE if your partner doesn't have HIV/AIDS... Check TABLE 1 (page 9) of this report from the Center for Disease Control for verification: www cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/RR/RR5402.pdf Why are Porn Stars different from any other hot girls in clubs? Ok, you need to recognize that sexually-confident superhotties like premium Porn Stars are DIFFERENT from your 'typical 9+' types you might find out in clubland in that they accept their sexual-attractiveness as a given. Normal 'Club Girls' are generally NOT self-confident, and usually have pretty low self-esteem. They are actually IN the club in the first place to get VALIDATION from guys because of their looks. Even if they DESCRIBE themselves as models, or have a models' portfolio card (Z-card) to hand out, they most-likely haven't ever had the courage OR the look necessary to really BE a professional model... and since that has meant that they've taken jobs as hair salon receptionists, dental hygienists, veterinary assistance, or whatever... they desperately seek out mens' attention to re-affirm them of their desirability. Contrarily, Porn Stars, Spokes-Models, Photo Models, and Exotic Dancers fall into the category of "PROFESSIONALLY BEAUTIFUL GIRLS" and tend to have a different attitude; they ALREADY have all the validation they need, based on their looks - so 'negging' [giving double-edged compliments] falls on deaf ears, as well as do banal compliments. The hottest women you'll run into basically ANYWHERE will only really here about two things from your average guy: Either HOW BEAUTIFUL SHE IS, or HOW IMPRESSIVE HE IS! With women like these, the only impressive quality which truly matters is demonstrating your own self-comfort, and through that, the acceptance of their beauty as merely a component of their "interestingness" to you. You must NEVER appear star-struck, or overwhelmed by their hotness or beauty! It must be obvious to them that you are undaunted by their popularity, their fame, or their sex appeal. You'll need to engage them in conversations about things WHICH INTEREST THEM - and the easiest and most certain way to do that is by DEMONSTRATING HAPPY CURIOSITY - in other words, being light and playful and INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, encouraging them to keep describing the things which they wish to talk about through asking insightful and INTERESTED questions. [This is true for MOST beautiful women, and most women and men in general, but amongst the top-tier of sexiness, they almost never get to talk about their own interests!] Forget trying to come off as 'Cocky & Funny' here - instead, Playful & Confident wins the day! Remember always: BE CURIOUS, accepting, and appreciative. The LONGER you keep them talking about the things THEY like to talk about (themselves, their interests, their thoughts and positions on things and people) the MORE ATTRACTIVE you'll become. Look at Howard Stern, or any talk-show host - they are NOT nice to look at, BUT because they know how to keep someone talking about themselves, and they know how to LISTEN ATTENTIVELY AND ACTIVELY encouraging the speaker to continue speaking, they are COMPELLINGLY ATTRACTIVE. You need to BE OKAY with their career choice: Respectful, yet not in-awe. Demonstrate that you offer them 'non-judgmental acceptance' combined with sincere appreciation, and they will ADORE you for it. (If you haven't come-to-comfort with the notion that women should be able to make their own decisions about with-whom and why they go to bed, or you are still caught-up believing a woman is 'a slut' or undesirable because she's INTO SEX, then please check out my Seductive Reasoning seminar, available for free from SeductiveReasoning.com) Once they know they can open-up to you, and share their intimate emotional and cerebral aspects with you, they will rapidly transfer that sense of comfort and security into their carnal and visceral centers - and they will open-up other aspect of themselves THINGS WHICH WILL HELP: Porn Stars, Spokes-Models, photo-models are 'WITH' agencies, they don't work FOR the agency - and actually, the agency is supposed to be working FOR THEM (which is why THEY pay the agent!) so you might ask "What agency are you with?" For the most-part, MOST girls have worked with at least a couple of them if they have been in 'The Industry' for more than a couple of months... This makes for GOOD CONVERSATIONS! Each Agency is known by the first-name of the owner/operator... "Oh, you work with Derek?" "Is Joel the first agent you've worked with?" "How do you get along with September?" "Did you work with Kevin back when he was with Derek?" - The Agencies are VERY incestuous and competitive... so it's fun to pick up on the gossip. Most of the people working at the agencies themselves have worked in other aspects of The Industry, and often for competing agents! (For EXTRA industry gossip, visit lukeisback.com or LukeFord.com, but BE CAUTIOUS, a lot of Talent don't keep tabs on these tabloid-sites, and some people will get plenty mad at you for telling unpleasant them things about people they like!) Every girl will have something positive to say about her current agency, and something negative (usually many things!) to say about her previous one(s)... Other good non-contentious subjects: "Have you shot any fun scenes lately?" "Has the economy slowed you down much?" "Who's your favorite Male-Talent you've worked with so far?" ("Talent" is used in place of 'actor/actress/performer') A follow up might be "Cool! Is there anyone you've really wanted to work with, but haven't yet?" and follow THAT with "Ok, what is it about SoandSo that gets you so hot?"... "Have you had to put anyone/many people on your "No!" list yet?" (a No! list is the guys she won't work with, which the agents all respect) "Do you prefer shooting Gonzo, or do you like features too?" (Gonzo is sex-only, no real storyline, no need for scripts - "features" are much higher production-value shoots, might require SOME acting - but take 3-5 hours longer for no extra pay!) These topics will give you a appearance of knowing something about the production-side of things.... if they ask how you know, just tell 'em you're a friend of mine Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy - Porn Czar P.S. I'll update this whenever I think of anything else to add! __________________ Last edited by johnnysoporno; 01-01-2009 at 08:17 PM..