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Originally Posted by Mutt
how does it work? i get the gist of the idea but don't understand how a surfer gets tracked from site to site.
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Well, there are 2 answers for that question depending on if you're a webmaster or program owner:
If you're a webmaster:
We run an incredibly complex set of custom scripts that is integrated with NATS that tracks what site the member joined. That then interfaces with the billing company that processed the join. In our case, we're currently using CCBILL, EPOCH and WTS. At the point of the rebill, we look at what site the member has at the top of their Cartel list and if it's the same site, we leave them as a member of that site. If it's another paysite, we remove access to the first paysite and move them over to the new one.
This is not like an AVS however - they do not get access to any/all paysites in the system. Only the one they joined and any "bonus" sites that might come with that join from the same program.
If you're a program owner:
Imagine Paul, an adult webmaster with a network of 10 free sites, sends ?Little Lucy Paysite? 50 joins per week. Paul works hard to match his traffic to the appropriate paysite but has never heard of your webmaster program so he?s not promoting any of your paysites. You, as a program owner, make absolutely no revenue from Paul, know nothing about him, or how good his traffic is.
Now consider if ?Little Lucy Paysite? and your paysites are in the cartel. Those 50 members per week could read one of your paysites review and after enjoying ?Little Lucy?; they move their membership to one of your paysites. You?re making revenue from Paul?s hard work now ? money you?d never had made otherwise.
Paul sees that his members are frequently moving over to your paysites and decides to take a look at your webmaster program and is drawn to your different program offerings & payouts and promotional material.
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Originally Posted by Mutt
If a person joins Twistys is he joining through Twistys or Adult Cartel and when he cancels is he cancelling through Twistys or Adult Cartel?
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They're joining through AdultCartel. We run our own join pages and billing and may or may not use processors that the actual program uses on the sites.
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Originally Posted by Mutt
Are the surfers getting full access to the paysites?
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They absolutely do. Not only do they get access to the actual members sections of the site they joined, they get all of the content we have to offer as well.
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Originally Posted by Mutt
How can you bill for a paysite you don't own/operate?
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The first thing I did was sit down with Epoch, CCBill and WTS and explained what we were going to do and how we wanted to do it. They took it to the powers that be and came back to me with a list of explicit requirements that I must follow for each site in the program. We've done that and is why I said in a previous post that there are tons of steps that I have to do for each site we add into the program
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Originally Posted by Mutt
Or are you getting paid by the participating programs/paysites and kicking back 50% of what you earn to Adult Cartel affiliates?
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No, we run our own processing and then pay the program owners and webmasters ourselves.