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Old 01-10-2009, 12:13 AM  
Libertine
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Originally Posted by Mutt View Post
true - but that's what you get when you pay directly for medical care out of your own wallet. there's absolutely no way a socialized public 'free' healthcare system can provide top notch healthcare to everybody in every situation, that's a resources issue, then there's the bureaucracy and politics involved that fuck up a national healthcare system - you'd be paying 80% in income tax to have the national healthcare system people want.

got the cash - you can go to a private hospital and get the same treatment the golden retriever gets.
Sorry, but you're wrong.

Let's start with the golden retriever. Apart from the vet paying far less in malpractice insurance, he is also allowed to deliver a significantly lower standard of care. Bluntly put, more protocols are in place to prevent human patients accidentally dying than there are to prevent animals from dying.

Those things make treatment take a lot more time, which also increases waiting times.

As for socialized medicine not providing top notch care to everyone in all situations - over here, it provides top notch care to virtually everyone in virtually all situations. And even if the system does not make everyone happy (an impossibility under any circumstances, considering the fact that even with the best possible care, people will still die and will therefore still be dissatisfied), a large majority of people actually are quite happy with it. And all that is achieved without hitting 80% income tax...

In fact, western countries with socialized health care actually have governments spend less on health care than the US does, while achieving better results.


(source: http://www.economist.com/research/ar...TOKEN=47470697 )

The problem with the American system is that the government spends the money it could spend on paying for health care on paying for profits in the health care industry instead.

Why the corrupt fuckers who are responsible for this mess haven't been voted out of office and locked up for fraud is anybody's guess...
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