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Old 01-21-2009, 06:17 AM  
polle54
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Originally Posted by Chr0makey View Post
I can assure you he has plenty of experience and some very good references. He would have done just fine without the degree, but he will also do much better with it.

Congrats polle54
Thanks a lot Brett

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Originally Posted by woj View Post
software engineer!=programmer

in 90% of the jobs software engineers just happen to perform jobs of a programmer...
but it's like comparing a construction worker and a civil engineer, they both work kinda in the same field, but they are nowhere close to the same...
Thanks for pointing this out as it seems to be a general misconception. I do program some of the time but my main job is to build the software architechture and make sure that each component is abstract and stabile and so on.

I am very glad I took and education because there's no way in hell I would have taken the time to learn the most complicated software structures and design patterns.
For the ones who doesn't know this kind of education:
We don't code most of the time
We learn principles and patterns for building correct software
We get introduced to all technologies so we can make an educated decision between them
We learn hardware programming of robot arms, softdrink dispensers, washing machines and so on.
We have electronics and math on a high level.
We also learn about signal processing and manipulation.
We have to take a course in programming to mobile units like Windows Mobile.
and so on.
Altogether 36 courses and 6 months in practical experience.

It simply does not compare to a self educated guy who might be a solid master who owns me in C++ or C#. If you are that good, you are the kind of guy I wanted hire to do that part of the work.
I have the utmost respect for people who choose not to get an education and just program away, but I just enjoy seeing the bigger picture
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