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Old 01-29-2009, 09:37 PM  
Kevin Marx
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies View Post
Define 'better'.

Few jobs.
Their power grid is worse than Saddam days.
They have water and sewage issues.
There is random gun fire, looting, rape, and madness daily in their streets.
Little to no real infrastructure rebuilt in regards to hospitals, schools, power plants, etc.
They have to worry about living in the wrong areas, or towns now based on religion.

With all those winning benefits coming after the war. Who WOULDN'T be happy with years in those conditions?!!? I can only imagine the insane amount of gratitude I would have while my family starved, I had poor education and health care, little power or fresh water, and bullets all hours of the day and night..

Oh that's right. They have 'democracy' now..
Makes you long for those days when people were gassed under Hussein's rule, or they were picked up tortured and beaten and never heard from again doesn't it? Yeah, getting rid of the people that did that was a terrible thing wasn't it?

Don't you think some of the fault for the "years in those conditions" lies with the Iraqi leaders and people for not moving forward on their democracy? Dragging their own feet as it were?

Let me ask. If you had lived under a dictator and a force came in (whether you wanted to recognize them as liberators or not) and gave you the "keys to the kingdom" as it were and said... here ya go... set it up... make your own way.

Would you as part of a population allow the shit to continue? Would you back the insurgents and the wahhabi and the shiites and the sunnis calling for just as much oppression as there was before?

Do you honestly believe that the problems in Iraq truly are 100% the fault of the GWB administration or can you lay a large part of the blame on Iraq itself for not pulling it's head from it's collective ass and stepping up to the plate?

Seems to me one of the first things the Iraqis should have done was control the one viable resource they had... THE OIL.... and sell the shit out of it and get some revenue coming in.....

Then they could have built the hospitals, the schools, the infrastructure that everyone blames the US for not supplying. They could have employed their own police force and said to the US... Thanks for the starter.. Now get the fuck outta here. We're good. What..... must we do everything to be considered as acceptable? Getting rid of asshat #1 and his boys wasn't enough? Yeah, the whole thing was done looking for the elusive WMD's but dropping Hussein in the process wasn't such a bad trade-off was it?
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