Originally Posted by Mutt

Well Bruno - you're half right half wrong about the 'overdirecting', - I originally gave you certain design elements, the logo itself and one design element and basically told you to create some magic. The first rough concept you showed me I liked - in general, the colors and style. At that point I should have been more direct and told you that there was a flaw in it that would never be overcome - but I wanted to see it more fleshed out to be sure. The 'fleshing out' of the concept just made it worse. The reason I began to 'over direct' is that what I was getting from you after the original first draft which i thought was pretty good was pretty blah - so I gave u suggestions to see if it would add something to the design.

I wish designers would actually use rough pencil and paper sketches - I don't need to see a completely rendered design to see if something is going to work out or not. because I know you have a business to run and can't spend unlimited hours per project.

It's true, I can be a control freak when it comes to design - but only when I can see that things aren't working out well and things weren't coming together well on this one.

oh well - as I said, Dickmans does some amazing work - i only said what was true for me. The overdirection has *some* validity.