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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks
first of all, great discussion.
i would argue your first point with consumptionjunction, where i belive they were offering vids through a browser from before 2002. i heard at one point, and i dont remember from who, but that they were using half of natnets bandwidth
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With the immense popularity of youtube, the tube site model has become a universally recognized standard.
It's not *just* delivering streaming video, or delivering video through the browser, or delivering content on a single site. It's delivering a specific type of content in a format that most people are already intimately familiar with.
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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks
tube sites are filled with content from dvd libraries, many of it late 90s, early 2002s content. many sites started with this type of content years ago and i dont see the difficulty to transforming it to a content suitable for tube sites
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It's far cheaper now than it was a few years ago, though. Plus, more dvds have been turned into digital formats. Plus, internet-specific production has filled millions of harddrives around the world with numerous porn scenes. Getting full scenes for $5 a piece was nearly unthinkable a few years ago. Now, it's not uncommon.
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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks
and cam/dating sites have been around for at least 5 plus years, but i dont think thats critical for a tube site to be solvent, many sponsors can be profitiable, if you can keep the bw and other costs down
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They have been around for over 5 years, yes. But in the case of cams, increasing broadband penetration has helped their appeal quite a bit. In the case of dating, the business model will become somewhat less viable over the next few years as free alternatives start popping up more and more.
And I have to disagree with you on the idea that many sponsors can be profitable for tube sites. Dating, cams, penis enlargement, male sex toys, gambling, dating guides, sex guides... the list isn't nearly as long as it is in most other industries, since many mainstream companies will not advertise on porn sites.
But my main point is this: don't try to look for single explanations. Focus on the big picture, the context in which specific types of sites thrive, and the factors that contribute to it.
Like CJ sites, which did well in an environment where searching for porn mainly entailed actually *searching* for porn. Or TGPs, which initially grew popular in an environment filled with CJ sites, and where people would bookmark something that offered content the moment they found it.