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You said millionaires, I gave you a few. Sure, guys like Flynt are worth more. Why? They were there first and were the creators and innovators of the industry. That is pretty normal for all industries. The people that create and develop the industry tend to make the most money. It doesn't mean that they are the only one's who make money. maybe you should have said, show me someone that has built over 100 million in wealth from the internet alone. If that is the criteria I can't think of anyone.

There were lost sales to me and it had everything to do with technology changing. There wasn't a sudden flood of free porn. Altavista stopped letting me do what I had been doing for the previous year or so and I because of that it caused me to lose sales. I'm sure someone else got those sales, but it was a lost sale to me, not the industry as a whole.

I'm just guessing, but you are saying that the industry is losing affiliates, yet - like me - you show no proof.

Back when I started there were a few message boards and not a ton of sponsors. Now there are a ton of sponsors and dozens of message boards. TGP's used to have to beg to get submissions now they are flooded. The same can be said with link sites. To me that means there are more people in the game now than there was 10 years ago.


Correct, but you are comparing apples and oranges here and in a way you prove my point. If a brick and mortar store only sold to 1 in ever 500 people that came through the door they would be out of business . . . unless it was The Huns Porn Store and they have 700,000 people come through the door every day. If you only get 200-300 people in your store in a day you need to sell as many of them as you can. If you get half a million you can afford for many of them not to buy and if you have the opportunity you can maybe make some money off of those that don't buy from you.

Not in the term of actual dollars per person no. If a guy walks in and pays $4 to jerk off in a booth the store makes $4. When a guy goes to a tube site and watches a movie then leaves, even if it is through a trade or his just being their increases the traffic volume so the site can sell advertising he doesn't make anywhere near $4 for the site. But again, I go back to my previous argument. A brick and mortar store might see a few hundred people a day where a tube site can see hundreds of thousands. It would be great to sell every single one of them something, but that has never happened and never will happen. If you are walking into a porn store you normally have something in mind, rarely are you going in just browse and leave. If you do browse you may eventually see something you like and buy it. With the internet the same is true, the problem is that it all isn't in the same place. If you have site featuring a couple of different niches and someone comes to it, browses, but was looking for something different or doesn't see something they like, they continue to look. . . on someone else's site. In a brink and mortar store the person knows if this place doesn't have what they want, they may not find it or they are going to have to drive clear across town to another store. With the internet they can click a few things, hit the back button and move on. So it is hard to compare the two.


That is the question of the day. I think the nature of the internet is such that nobody will ever see a sale from every visitor. I have seen people with extremely target traffic that still convert at 1:40 - 1:50. That is a great ratio, but still 39-49 people that didn't buy.

To me part of it is that people feel like they pay for an internet connection so whatever is on there should be free. Of course that isn't how it works, we know this, but there are a lot of people who think that. Also the guy that used to spend a few dollars in a booth, might now be a thing of the past and we might just have to settle for being happy to get whatever we can in return for him and focus our attention on selling stuff to those that are still open to buying when they find the right thing.