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Originally Posted by Retox Josh
RRRed, I understand your feelings and I'm sorry for what happened to Taylor, Believe me, I've read your threads and understood everything, hell if it wasn't for you I'd have never found one of my favorite songs, Blue October - Into the Ocean, because of your thread about him wanting it at his funeral. But you're letting your feelings get the best of you and aren't understanding my reasoning.
Both you and Libertine don't know what I've gone through to make my beliefs on suicide, you just assume I'm someone who hasn't been "educated" on the subject.
Little did you know I went through the same shit your son did growing up, still do, I'm 23 years old and still get bullied by people in real life, and on the internet... I also had to deal with 2 friends die of suicide, many attempt suicide, not including my mother and oldest sister.
My mother attempted suicide TWICE just after my father died because she hastly got into a relationship with another guy due to fear of being alone, and was verbally abused and the guy went as far as insulting my father saying his death was because he didn't want to be with my mother anymore, so she tried to OD because she didn't want to be alive, just wanted to be with the only one she loved, my father.
My oldest sister attempted suicide because her and her boyfriend of 8 years, and father of 2 of her kids threatened to take her kids from her because of stupid shit and abused her also.
Yes, I worded myself wrong for saying "Worthless pieces of shit" Taylor was far from worthless, my bad.. but saying I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm uneducated or a retard because I have different beliefs is the most ignorant thing anybody can say.
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While it appears your views are mostly the result of a somewhat understandable survival strategy, I'd advise you to rethink them. Or, failing that, to simply keep them to yourself. Because stating that depression isn't real and an excuse for failure and that those who commit suicide are worthless pieces of shit is EXACTLY the sort of thing that will reinforce the type of negative self image that people with major depressive disorder have.
Given the statistics on depression, it's likely that a fair number of people who suffer from depression have read this thread. Your statements essentially come down to telling them "you don't have a disorder which you need to seek help for, you're just a worthless loser and a coward on top of that".
And yes, depression is a very real disorder. There are thousands and thousands of studies documenting it in extreme detail, and it's very clear that it is related to numerous measurable physical changes. So if you deny it, then yes, you are either uneducated on the subject or simply unwilling to accept the results of decades of research.
To be honest, with you I think the latter is more likely, and given your story above, it's quite clear what your reasons are. However, you might want to consider seeing a good psychologist or psychiatrist to deal with those feelings (and no, there is no shame in doing that), rather than insulting people who have died because of a serious mental illness.