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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
The problem is that minor aren't rampant in the commercial porn industry in the United States. Sure there have been rare cases of a minor using a fake ID or a producer overlooking things, but it's just not necessary. Plenty of legal girls who look the part.
The U.S. still doesn't understand that the problem is global and a CP producer in Russia doesn't give two shits about our laws.
They can do better by working closer with other governments, especially ones where CP is prevalent. They can create legislation with ISPs that give them more power to shut down access to illegal sites that are coming into the United States. To be able to shut down processors and freeze assets of those who are involved (not unlike we do with terrorists). Yes that can sound a bit like China, but it's a much better way to stop CP than pestering legitimate businesses over photocopies of their IDs.
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You can't prove the problem isn't rampant in commercial porn without having records to prove it.
The problem is global, but that doesn't mean the U.S. should ignore the activities that occur within it's own borders just because Russia may not care about what goes on in theirs.
Remember, the purpose of these laws isn't to stop CP from being distributed to the sickos who want to view it....the purpose is to prevent children from being exploited.
Processing, hosting, and all that other shit doesn't matter. In most cases CP is produced without a profit motive. The point is to stop the production, and to have the tools to prosecute those who do produce it....stopping the distribution is a secondary concern really.
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Originally Posted by GatorB
Not this way. How does his stop child porn? If you are retarded enough to think it does then you are retarded. Guess what child pornographer sare NOT going to get IDs. Also IDs can be FAKED. Child porn is already illegal so no other laws are need to bust someone for producing it.
Ok so let me ge this straight the fact that CP is already illegal and has hefty penalties doesn't stop someone from making CP but some bullshit record keeping law will? Like all the CP producers are thinking "Damn! With this 2257 law we have no choice but to stop now!" Seriously this is what you and the idiots in DC think will happen?
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Originally Posted by GatorB
Sure enforce laws that have been on the books for DECADES. Here's one in my state if a 25 year old fucks a 16 year old that's illegal so anyone making a porn involving a 25 year old and 16 year old has already violated the law. Ergo they can be prosecuted. Pretty simple eh?
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Calm down there hoss. Try to detach yourself from the situation and look at it rationally.
Other than the obvious pre-pubescent stuff, how can the government prove that minors were used in a production if there are no records kept?
You're correct that someone making CP will not keep records, and under this system they will go to jail, for not keeping records. With no system like this at all, those people go free because you can't "prove" that the performers in question were underage at the time of filming.