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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor
It's obviously impossible to have a rational discussion about this here, because the people willing to discuss it are too emotionally involved.
I don't like this law, but I do understand the need for it. I don't think it's a case of the government harrassing pornographers, it's a law that is necessary in order to prosecute real CP.
(I'll say this again....how can you prove a model was underage if there was no ID copied at the time of production? The answer is you can't. Therefore someone could shoot CP and never get caught because there would never be proof that the model was underage. With the 2257 law, that person would at least go to jail for not keeping records, and having that person locked up would protect children)
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which justifies making it a requirement for the primary producer ONLY. you are trying to argue that the law in its entireity is valid, including the secondary producer requirements
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Nobody is willing to answer this question or provide a better alternative.
Gideon tried, but the method he came up with is actually much more complicated and harder to implement and enforce. He just likes it because it wouldn't require him to keep records, it would put all of the responsibility on someone else.
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please explain exactly how it is harder to enforce, take this specific example
ron jeremy has acted in 1000 movies, he is well over the age of majority. Each of those movies have been licienced to 100s of web sites (1000 if you include gallery submitters)
which means under the current law that 1000*100 records to be checked for 1 person.
under the super id example those 100,000 records to check would become 1 record check.
This is from the point of view of the goverment operative not the webmaster.
How exactly is the first solution easier to enforce then the second one.
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Everyone else seems to be doing just what we always do here....bitch about what we don't like about this law, without offering a better way to do it.
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while i agree with this statement, you still haven't explained how "super id" solution would be more difficult to enforce than 100,000 fold duplication of id solution. which means you are basically doing the same thing from the opposite side.