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Old 02-21-2009, 10:49 AM  
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
which justifies making it a requirement for the primary producer ONLY. you are trying to argue that the law in its entireity is valid, including the secondary producer requirements



please explain exactly how it is harder to enforce, take this specific example
ron jeremy has acted in 1000 movies, he is well over the age of majority. Each of those movies have been licienced to 100s of web sites (1000 if you include gallery submitters)
which means under the current law that 1000*100 records to be checked for 1 person.

under the super id example those 100,000 records to check would become 1 record check.

This is from the point of view of the goverment operative not the webmaster.

How exactly is the first solution easier to enforce then the second one.




while i agree with this statement, you still haven't explained how "super id" solution would be more difficult to enforce than 100,000 fold duplication of id solution. which means you are basically doing the same thing from the opposite side.
You are assuming that the feds would check the ID of the same performer over and over again. That's not reality.
If there is a model of questionable age, they'll check his/her ID once and then move on.

You have this fantasy where hundreds of FBI agents are dispatched to check the same performer's ID 1000 times. That's not how it's going to happen.

The "super id" solution is kind of what's going to happen now since the feds are going to allow 3rd party record keepers. So the primary can pay a 3rd party to keep records, and the secondary can list that same 3rd party as custodian of records for that particular scene.

The thing with that though, is that as a secondary producer, I would still insist on inspecting the records myself.....because what if the girl was actually underage?
If you buy content from an overseas producer and then just "take their word" that the girl was of legal age, and then come to find out she's not, then you are guilty of publishing CP, whether you intended to or not, and can go to jail for doing so.

Even though there is a 3rd party keeping the records and keeping them organized, it's kind of like having a CPA do your taxes. They do all the heavy lifting but at the end of the day, if a mistake was made, you're responsible for it, not the CPA.
In the same vein, a secondary is responsible for the content they choose to publish, even though the actual records inspection will happen elsewhere.
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