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Old 03-02-2009, 08:13 PM  
pocketkangaroo
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays View Post
FACT... Bush used the rhetoric that if we don't do something right now, more attacks will come, we have no time, we need to make drastic changes etc etc etc - forget afghanistan then... think about The Patriot Act.

FACT... Obama used the same scare tactics and rhetoric saying we have no time to even so much as read or debate the planets largest spending bill ever because they economy is on the verge of going into an "irreversible" recession

simple point - two presidents using the same scare tactics to push through an agenda. thats all. you can argue the same points for either side. people refuse to admit or accept it because at the end of the day, politics is all about "us against them" and the "us" and "them" are just two sides of the same coin.
That's fine, I was just taking exception to the comment that everyone bashed Bush when he was doing this stuff. The wars and the Patriot Act were put through when Bush had a lot of support. I think the big difference at this moment is that Bush ended up lying about his dire rhetoric (particularly with Iraq). It's yet to be seen yet if Obama is lying about how bad the economy is and how bad it needs his plans. We'll find out in the coming years and judge him the same way we judged Bush.
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