Sometimes I am bored, so I could not resist to get in touch with them:
THEY:
Hello,
We are interested in your domain name for sale. Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Regards,
Jeremy Hammond
CEO
Elite Real Estate Group
ME:
Hello,
If you are interested in the domain, please feel free to make an offer.
Regards,
Mike
THEY:
Sorry for delay with answer. Our family was celebrating newborn child of my sister.
Can you accept 15,000 USD?
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://domainblog.007sites.com/647013.htm
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.
After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply.
ME:
Hi,
You can place the bid on Sedo, where the domain is parked. Payment is also
with Sedo If you want it to be valuated, no problem, go ahead, but on your own costs
ofcourse.
Regards,
Mike
THEY:
It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks. Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated vlauations. So manual valuation is a "must" too.
I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://domainblog.007sites.com/647013.htm
Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.
ME:
I am the seller and sell my domain to anybody who gives me a good price.
I am not new in the domainbiz and what you say is not true. I have sold many
high-end domains without any valuation and those who wanted one, did it on
their own risk and own costs.
So if you want to pay 15k, why would you not pay a couple bucks more for an
independent valuation? I do not care about one, you do, so go ahead.
If you have done an valuation, please show it to me with the receip and I am
happy to accept the offer minus the costs you made.
So you have 3 choices:
1: Pay the 15k you offered and do so by Sedo
2: Go ahead and get an valuation with an indepentent company, show me the
rapport and receip and you pay the money the domain it's worth minus the
costs of the valuation.
3. Stop wasting my time trying to push your rules on me. I am the seller, I
make the rules.
regards,
Mike
THEY:
It's a big risk to proceed without professional valuation. I already spoke to industry experts and they prohibited me to do business without valuation..
Without manual valuation nobody will buy. You'll sit on your domain for years in this case, paying renewal fees to your registrar. Just think about it. So sooner or later, you'll have to obtain an appraisal. Why waste time now?
As a seller, you can use a valuation certificate to sell names to other buyers. I cannot do the same because I don't keep control over your domain.
I'm still interested in your domain. Hope you'll change your position. I simply don't want to take additional risks.
Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.
ME:
Let's break down your message:
"It's a big risk to proceed without professional valuation. I already spoke
to industry experts and they prohibited me to do business without
valuation.."
WRONG! If they are such experts, they would know that SEDO is one of the
leading domaincompanys in the world. So doing business via Sedo is perfectly
safe. If your socalled industry experts say it is not, they are a fraud.
"Without manual valuation nobody will buy."
WRONG! I am in the domainbusiness for years now and always sold my domains
to interested people for big prices.
"As a seller, you can use a valuation certificate to sell names to other
buyers. I cannot do the same because I don't keep control over your domain."
WRONG! Like I said, you are ready to pay 15k, so that is what the domain is
worth to you. And you are in the real estate business? Than you must know
that the buyer is always advised to do an check for the house, but the costs
are always for the buyer. You want the domain, you pay for the valuation.
I offered a perfectly safe option for you. You want the domain for 15k, if
the experts tell you it is woth less, than I accept that offer. If they say
it is worth 15k, I will reduct the costs you had to pay for the valuation.
Either way you are safe and you have the domain for the price it is worth
and the valuation is costing you nothing.
So unless you want to go ahead on my great and strong and reasonable terms,
we have a deal. If not, stop sending me messages about how you think this
must be done because I do not go on your terms. Like I said, I am the
seller, I set the rules.
THE END:
I did not hear from them ofcourse, but kept them busy for a while and had fun... lol