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Old 03-27-2009, 02:19 AM  
CarlosTheGaucho
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You're not offering value for money to the guy who wants to sign up for a day because he won't be able to watch tomorrow or wants to test the site before he commits to a month or the guy who does commit and realises it's not as good as he thought. Whether it's good or not is not the question, it's his perception.
You know what will make me the best marketer in the world?

Once I will know exactly what every customer wants.

They have there a trial - a 7 day trial so they can see the whole program before deciding if to cancel or not - and it works so far.

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We all think we offer great value for money. Problem is it's what the customers think that matters.
Ok, and show me sites that offer livecams, live hardcore, frequent updates, all exclusive, and they can even come and fuck in front of the cams if they have the balls and dick to do so.

So what should I be afraid of? What's the fear?

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$5 for 1-2 days might appeal to a lot more and if the site is as good as you say they will upgrade if they want 30 days. You have to believe and agree with that. Or are you scared these guys won't upgrade?
As I mentioned, they have 7 days to see the whole program if they prefer a trial. And I still want them to pay at least those 12 bucks for the trial because they're costing you bandwith (with live video included), they engage support, it has to always be more expensive than if you would subscribe for monthly etc. - it's simple economics.

Where is your point?

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I run trials and not worried about them upgrading. With all what you're offering I'm sure they would upgrade as well. Only reason not to is they don't need the other 28 days because they won't be able to view or they don't think it's worth viewing.
As I mentioned, that's why they get the whole 7 days to see EVERYTHING a weekly program offers. I've changed it from the 3 day trial and it works much better.

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In todays market the guys who buy trials don't buy anything else, sites that don't offer them don't get their business. There are enough sites that do. Even though yours is a unique product.
Again, that's why there is the 7 day trial, I won't ever do a shorter and cheaper trial again.

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The $5 porn site idea was something my CMS could not handle, it was built to run the content stores and adapted to run one paysite. Your question about how would I of got traffic at $5 a join is interesting. Are you saying affiliates demand we charge $39.95 or just that the cost of getting the traffic means you have to charge $39.95?
If you would want me to persuade to send you a traffic for a $5 site you would have to offer me at least something like 20 $ for 1000 uniques.

So if you would pay me $ 2,50 net per each sign up I would need to make 8 sign ups at an average ratio of 1:125.

Can be done?

Sure, but I would pull the links once the ratio would decline.

How much would YOU make? Would you also leave the money from rebills on the table?

Talk about the opportunity cost.


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What ever you say is right it says more than you know and shows how Tubes operate and able to give away content. They don't have those costs. Maybe so long as we do have those costs we will always be competition to us.
Let's keep it simple - they have huge bandwith costs, but that's it.
For the rest cares the DMCA.

And they have sponsors, who wire them money on their account every month, so they can steal traffic to send to them.

Traffic, that was also probably marketed in a legit way before, it's yours traffic, it's my traffic, it's our traffic, it's traffic we owned, but it's gone now.

It's practically financing a a third perty to do a theft for you, I don't see how was no one ever able to put one and one together yet.

Maybe lawyers are too expensive? May be..

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