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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho
Ok, here's my point - you guys are around in adult for a while, you make your money in adult, but sometimes, you don't see things in perspective, you're sitting by the PC and you're consumed with it. You don't see things in the grand scheme.
You don't see that a dude selling cheap sunglasses he gets from Italy for $10 a piece incl. shipping and popping a piece for $120 is making more money an hour than you, that has much more skills, much more brains and spent years building your sites.
You make a couple bucks on something and call it a "smart" business as it makes money, but then you don't realize, that if this would be made right, it could make you millions.
And if you apply a little bit of common sense and look at it from the outside, you see the incredible level of dumbness in it.
I dare to say there were times, when idiots could make hundreds / thousands a day - who's smart then?
What is smart?
See my point?
The day you'll call me an idealist, I'll call you an idiot.
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You ARE talking like an idiot here, at fist you had a good point, then all of the sudden you started talking the same stupid shit people have been talking fo a couple years now that has gone NOWHERE. I don't give a FUCK if you've been n this industry for 30 years. If you can't see that these people are doing the smart thing, that is your problem. I am calling you an idealist RIGHT NOW, go ahead and call me an idiot. All the shit you're saying isn't going to change a good damned thing. I see your point, and your point is null, void, it does not hold any weight in reality. In the grand scheme, you can't assume everyone you're in competition with has the same goals, the same ideas, or the same business plan.
You can't even assume that all your competition is in it for business.
I agree 100% with your original comment. The traffic pool HAS changed forever. It hasn't dried up, it hasn't disappeared. It wants something different. It does not trust the old paysite model, it does not
WANT the old paysite model. What was 10 years ago is not today. People could make thousands a day 10 years ago without busting their ass 20 hours a day 7 days a week. Sure, point taken. But yet again I state, THAT IS NOT TODAY. So quit thinking about it, quit dreaming about days gone by, and look at what you have to deal with in the here and now
old timer.
You are not going to stop what is in motion right now. The surfers like the tube sites, they fucking
LOVE the tube sites, and that is where they are flocking, by the millions. There's a damn good reason that biggest companies in this industry have bought up the big tube real estate, or started their own huge tube projects. They know that this is the direction the industry is moving in. They didn't get to be at the head of the class by being dumbshits.
What I see here is an industry oldtimer, who made money and saw success in his market. His market is changing now and he thinks he can change it back. Well guess what?
He's wrong. In his old market it didn't take an outright marketing genius or incredible business sense to reach a level of financial success, and as the market changes, it's showing...
Lets take your little sunglasses analogy as an example.
Let's say Sunglass Salesman #1 buys his sunglasses for $10 a pair, he sells them for $120 and makes $110 profit. He's doing quite well. He's been doing this forever, but now the sunglass sales are starting to slip. Nobody wants to pay $120 for these sunglasses anymore because they're kind of cheap and overpriced.
Sunglass Salesman #2 is sitting across the street and sees that people are getting sick of paying for these $120 sunglasses. Nobody wants to pay for these sunglasses anymore, but still everyone would like a pair, it's sunny out. So he sets up a restaraunt across the street. He gives away the $10 sunglasses for free to anyone who comes in and buys a $50 meal.
Sunglass Salesman #1 screams and cries when no one wants to pay $120 for a pair of $10 shit sunglasses anymore, and damn near has a fucking heartattack when all of the sudden everybody is going across the street for a steak with the family. He hollers across the street at his old customers that they are idiots, he hollers at Salesman #2 that he destroyed a perfectly good business model and that they both could have profited. However, Salesman #1 still doesn't "get it" he talks about all the ways Sunglass Salesman #2 is destroying his business and eventually just goes broke. He talks about bringing Salesman #2 down with all these crazy ideas that will never work, and all for the justice of sunglass salesman everywhere!
Sunglass Salesman #2 is not making what they used to make, but he's still in business while Sunglasses Salesman #1 is out of business and manning a deepfrier at Denny's. Sunglass Salesman #2 now controls the entire damned sunglass market on the street, and is making a little less than he used to by hucking burgers on the side. But hey, at least he's still making a profit.
Now who is the smart business man again? See
my point?