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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat
You ARE talking like an idiot here, at fist you had a good point, then all of the sudden you started talking the same stupid shit people have been talking fo a couple years now that has gone NOWHERE.
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What exactly are you referring to? I'm lost
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I don't give a FUCK if you've been n this industry for 30 years.
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Why should you? I don't get it.
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If you can't see that these people are doing the smart thing, that is your problem. I am calling you an idealist RIGHT NOW, go ahead and call me an idiot.
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Dude, for Christ's sake you're still not getting it,
Ok once again:
Do you think you are smarter than the pawnbroker around the corner, if you're making a couple bucks on the internet, in an environment where anyone can fuck you in the ass?
Answer me
My ANSWER IS:
NO
You know why? Because he DOESN'T LET ANYONE steal his shit and he doesn't get fucked by shady morons voluntarily every day and CALL HIMSELF SMART!
CALLING HIMSELF SMART!
That's my point, I don't care how long is someone around, I don't care if someone still makes millions, but I CARE if someone calls THIS BUSINESS MODEL SMART!!!
That' my point, I can repeat it over and over again if you want to, this is not smart!
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All the shit you're saying isn't going to change a good damned thing. I see your point, and your point is null, void, it does not hold any weight in reality.
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What are you talking about? What I wrote is not real, is everything ok then?
I'm lost.
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In the grand scheme, you can't assume everyone you're in competition with has the same goals, the same ideas, or the same business plan. You can't even assume that all your competition is in it for business.
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But I can always assume that certain percentage of my competition are shady morons, a perfumed poverty, or fast scheme thiefs, that's what I can assume, and I don't have to keep my mouth shut about it.
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I agree 100% with your original comment. The traffic pool HAS changed forever. It hasn't dried up, it hasn't disappeared. It wants something different. It does not trust the old paysite model, it does not WANT the old paysite model.
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What is the old paysite model - shitty content / getting fucked, carders, cross sales, dialers, pop ups ? is that what you mean?
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What was 10 years ago is not today. People could make thousands a day 10 years ago without busting their ass 20 hours a day 7 days a week. Sure, point taken. But yet again I state, THAT IS NOT TODAY. So quit thinking about it, quit dreaming about days gone by, and look at what you have to deal with in the here and now old timer.
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I only assume this, I was busy jerking off while at college when I could have been making a bank - well people don't always do smart things..
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You are not going to stop what is in motion right now. The surfers like the tube sites, they fucking LOVE the tube sites, and that is where they are flocking, by the millions.
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And what's the point of this point?
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There's a damn good reason that biggest companies in this industry have bought up the big tube real estate, or started their own huge tube projects. They know that this is the direction the industry is moving in. They didn't get to be at the head of the class by being dumbshits.
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I disagree, I know more than one who's really dumb, and you don't have to be an einstein to figure out that if you can't help others steal from you you better stop stealing too.
But this is an animal instinct - it's not SMART for Christ's sake!
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What I see here is an industry oldtimer, who made money and saw success in his market. His market is changing now and he thinks he can change it back. Well guess what? He's wrong. In his old market it didn't take an outright marketing genius or incredible business sense to reach a level of financial success, and as the market changes, it's showing...
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As a matter of fact, I was never doing more turnover for 1000 uniques than now, and I will stand by my word.
This is hypothetical discussion, and I'm talking about general niche here, once again - general niche and general state of affairs.
Once again, I'm nowhere an old timer, I just keep my eyes open, and I'm making more $ per 1000 uniques that hit the paysites than ever, cause it's different, I'm not worried about our business, at least for a couple years, I also admit I don't see my middle or long term future in adult, unless I will be able to effectively exploit the dumbness and ignorance that fills adult, it will not be worth the hassle.
It's always about the opportunity cost, if you can make money somewhere else, if an opportunity arises, if there will be a chance to sell...
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Lets take your little sunglasses analogy as an example.
Let's say Sunglass Salesman #1 buys his sunglasses for $10 a pair, he sells them for $120 and makes $110 profit. He's doing quite well. He's been doing this forever, but now the sunglass sales are starting to slip. Nobody wants to pay $120 for these sunglasses anymore because they're kind of cheap and overpriced.
Sunglass Salesman #2 is sitting across the street and sees that people are getting sick of paying for these $120 sunglasses. Nobody wants to pay for these sunglasses anymore, but still everyone would like a pair, it's sunny out. So he sets up a restaraunt across the street. He gives away the $10 sunglasses for free to anyone who comes in and buys a $50 meal.
Sunglass Salesman #1 screams and cries when no one wants to pay $120 for a pair of $10 shit sunglasses anymore, and damn near has a fucking heartattack when all of the sudden everybody is going across the street for a steak with the family. He hollers across the street at his old customers that they are idiots, he hollers at Salesman #2 that he destroyed a perfectly good business model and that they both could have profited. However, Salesman #1 still doesn't "get it" he talks about all the ways Sunglass Salesman #2 is destroying his business and eventually just goes broke. He talks about bringing Salesman #2 down with all these crazy ideas that will never work, and all for the justice of sunglass salesman everywhere!
Sunglass Salesman #2 is not making what they used to make, but he's still in business while Sunglasses Salesman #1 is out of business and manning a deepfrier at Denny's. Sunglass Salesman #2 now controls the entire damned sunglass market on the street, and is making a little less than he used to by hucking burgers on the side. But hey, at least he's still making a profit.
Now who is the smart business man again? See my point?
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No, your analogy deals with certain aspects that only exist in REAL world.
Here's the right analogy:
Aalesman no. 2 is the thief, he steals the sunglasses from the salesman no. 1 and then offers them for free if they get also something else from his shop, or charges everyone 10 bucks a piece .
Salesman no.1 won't get any sales cause salesman no.2 fucked him over and is offering his product for free, while banking money on his product, from his customers.
Salesman no.1 calls the police and says the salesman no.2 is offering stolen goods, salesman no.2 is forced to close shop and flee or he gets in trouble.
Salesman no.3 would also want to steal something to keep ahead with the salesman no.3 but he's afraid he would get busted.
THIS is how it sometimes works in real world with control mechanisms!
Do you STILL want to call the salesman no. 2 and salesman no.3 smart?