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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat
Where did I say start stealing too? Where did I say that people should start an illegal tube site?
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And here's the point, what started the tube madness? What still kicks ass of any legal tube out there? I'm not talking about marketers here, I'm talking about thiefs.
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I said that surfers are comfortable with a tubesite model right now, and that the merger of the tube and paysite model is going to be more and more popular as people in the industry adapt to the changing landscape of the market. the numbers prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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No objections from me, I've licensed 48 hours of full length content to a legal site seeing conversions below 1:500, can you get it from an MGP?
Do I care if people watch my licensed content there more and are more interested in it than average content?
Of course not!
But that's called a competitive advantage, and I don't need to fuck anyone over to get it!
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It's by no means going to be the only option. I liked what Relentless had to show me, adding an interactive nature to the site is a great move in the right direction, obviously there's VOD too, and surely other innovators will have ideas that come to work with the changing wants/needs of the average porn consumer.
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That's what I'm trying to do, trying to innovate, get them to buy, and retain.
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I find it funny that you ask all these questions that you already know the answer for, then reject realistic answers to them.
You ask, where is the traffic going? YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
You ask, well why are they going there? YOU KNOW WHY THEY ARE GOING THERE.
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This is actually called a "rhetorical question"
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People are adapting to survive and you don't seem to think it's smart. I find that pretty damn funny. While the majority of people sit around bitching about tubes, worrying about what to do about them, some networks are embracing them, working with them, and harnessing massive amounts of traffic in the process. I hardly find that stupid. Call it what you will, but adaptation, survival of the fittest, whatever you want to label it is far from stupid.
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You're in exact contradiction with your previous point, you said you don't approve illegal tube sites and now you preach them as the smartest, toughest, and those who will survive?
Do I bitch here about legal tube sites?
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People are dedicated to their favorite tubes. People get accustomed to their favorite tubes They come back for every wank, they come back daily, twice daily. Now they see something they want, they got their cock in hand, they drop the premium membership fee and they're in.
They're happy, the retain paid members. It's a model that cuts out the middle man affiliates, does it's own promotion, and still monetizes content that otherwise would be stolen anyhow. I personally think this a reasonable adaptation to the changing market, and you're certainly going to see more of it.
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Incredible evolution, getting from 1:1000 to 1:5000 and paying for a shitload of bandwith costs for junk traffic jerkers.
Now that's smart!
What are you trying to advocate, dumbness?
Pick a side!
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As you mentioned with ND, they keep everything in their own network. Cams, Dating. they profit from all angles. Now run your own ams and own Dating on a tube site doing a million visitors a day. Cut out affiliate payments, and you have something to work with again.
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They were always ahead of the pack, yes they are without a doubt smart.
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You don't have to think it's smart, but I do. What I don't think is smart is fighting a battle to maintain an obsolete business model in changing times. I think the adult affiliate is slowly going to be worked out of the equation to maintain profit margins for the top tier of affiliates and networks. It only makes sense. that's why i got out. It took me about 3-4 months of working with mainstream promos to catch up to monthly earnings on par with 3 years of adult promo. That should say something about the shape the market is in here for affiliates.
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Again, what do you trying to advocate?
Can you prove this is not dumber than the tease and pay model?
What is your beef?
I'm EXAMINING the situation where I will still have conversions below 1:1000 and others / regular will go to shit, that's what I do.
This is hypothetical, can you hypothetically, for once, admit that this model is dumb?
please !
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People made mention of affiliate programs digging for affiliates. I get these emails and ICQ's still too. Guess which programs I'd put my money on being the first to go tits up? If I ran a network, I'd be busting my ass to bring the traffic back in house.
Maybe don't ask for answers to questions which you already know the answers to, and shit on the responses you get just because you don't agree with them.
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Please read above and tell me, what are you trying to advocate here.