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Old 03-31-2009, 08:03 AM  
CarlosTheGaucho
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There are far more reasons.

Paul, let me add a couple comments and some moderate and healthy opposition:

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Sites 40 scenes with one model, shot by one guy, neither of whom are exceptional.
Doesn't matter if the end user can't compare, does matter when he CAN compare

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Sites which spent more time on the tour than the members area.
True, and they still convert at the same ratio as those that spend the same time with the members area, doing more harm than good

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Sites who thought all you had to do was drive traffic and the sheep would buy.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, I would love to be again in the situation when all surfers are sheep


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All had a lot to do with it.

For 8 years it's been drive traffic, drive traffic and then drive more traffic. Spend a fortune on the free stuff, give affiliates everything they ask for and the top money and it will all come good.
And now it's the same - those who have traffic, even if they totally forgot what effectivity and common sense is, are kicking anyone's ass

Give me that traffic and I'll see a VERY wealthy man in the mirror

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Who here would of joined 90% of the sites on the Net or even the sites they promoted?
How many affiliates even care to check what clusterfuck their surfers go through by signing up and if there's not actual shit in the members area?

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We hardly ever did because we did not think they were worth it. But we expected the surfers to join. And still the problem goes on. Serious question and you know the answer.
Expectations used to be reality in those days

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What will get the most sign ups from affiliates today. Pay them $50 PPS or spend that money on more and better content?
Does preffering doing 50 PPS mean many affiliates are sheep as well?



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Yes some sites do both, few can afford to. Most we know spend more on traffic.
Spend more on traffic?

How much time and resources do you spend in average on recruiting an affiliate who can send real traffic?

How much do you spend per 1000 uniques in general by paying out the commissions?

How much do you allocate for media buying? What's the ROI?

What are your fixed and variable costs?

How much do you want to invest into content and updates and how will it affect the retention and average $ per sign up?

It's all quantifiable maths and it's no brainer.

I still don't see your point - traffic is the king - innovation without monetization is like an art without an audience, as used by Scott Rabinowitz.

If it's bad that shit gets more audience than good stuff? SURE

But who's mistake is it? let's hear the answer

If you're better than others, why can't you sell, why can't you get to their place?

We're talking in general, but traffic IS the king.

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Well the merry go round has gone full circle and the members are getting off the ride.

No matter what you do to drive more you will end up with less in todays market.

No matter how many times people post threads about changing few will.
And what's this? a litany?

Why should you end up with less? I know that every 1000 uniques on my sites is money in the bank.

Talking in political phraseology - ideology and awareness are extremely important.

Only the one, who's aware what's going on, is the one who will be ready to deal, when shit hits the fan.

Well ok, to be fair - needless to mention the level of retardation in the porn industry is higher than average.

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