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Originally Posted by farkedup
Marino exits the argument for simply not being a WINNER, nobody cares what records you own if you don't take your team to a title.
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Based on that logic Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Marino, and Archie Manning sucked.
Gimme a fucking break.
How about the fact that Miami would have been 6-10 instead of 10-6 for alot of those years without Marino, especially late in his career.
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Originally Posted by farkedup
Simple fact is remove a couple of Favres late seasons, have him retire a few years ago and he's way higher on everybody's lists of top QB's. He greatly harmed his legacy in his later years and that insane collapse with the Jets and the divorce with the pack.
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You can't cherry pick parts of a guy's career to call him the greatest of all time. That's total bullshit.
Also, if he retired a few years ago, then he wouldn't have broken any of Marino's records....records that took Favre alot more games/attempts to do than Marino did.
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Originally Posted by farkedup
Actually the deal was after Millen was fired and yes these are guys that were there before but Millen made it clear he was calling ALL of the shots and had final say on everything.
So far with what the new guys did to the Cowboys I have some hope with them. I don't like some of the cuts they made but overall they seem to be making solid trades and cut some cap space in some ways that for the most part made sense. I expected some form of major free agent but maybe they want to model themselves like the Packers did and grow with inhouse talent.
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Hey at least you know it can't get any worse. Although really if the owner wasn't such a cheapskate he would have brought in all new front office staff. He just didn't want to pay all those guys for not working like he has to do with Marinelli and Millen.
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Originally Posted by »Rob Content«
He'll get paid regardless. McDaniels is fuck, plain and simple. He's going to fuck that team up and be hated there in two years.
They made some huge mistakes. Most QB's are crybabies, just part of the job.
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Well you've obviously chosen sides....since you've passed judgement on a coach who hasn't coached his first game yet, and praised a QB because "he busted his ass to show he was a top QB".....as if he was supposed to do something else for the $48 million contract he got?
As if he hasn't been playing for his next contract since he got there. Oh he just selflessly busted his ass and now the big bad broncos don't want him anymore. Cry me a river.
If you could be a little more objective you'd see that this was a carefully orchestrated thing by Cutler and his agent...who have been trying to get out of Denver ever since Shannahan and Jeremy Bates were let go.....and the trade discussions about Cassell were just his excuse for publicly lobbying for a trade.
McDaniels only considered the trade BECAUSE Cutler had already told the Broncos he wanted out of there.
The rest of it is just theater.
