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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor
I'm amazed at all the haters in here. Just crazy.
Something in our culture makes it impossible for people to be happy for someone else. Instead they hate people who get something they didn't get.
All the people saying "I have to pay why don't you"....if you were in the same situation, you'd get the same offer.
You don't get the offer unless you're broke...and you can't fake being broke with the IRS.
Hmmm lets see, would I rather be almost destitute and get my 100K tax bill forgiven, or would I rather have 150K and have to give 100K to the IRS?
It's like all the people who hate on the UAW. Most of the time, they're just pissed off that those guys make more money than they do, and get better benefits and retire earlier....so since those people are getting something you don't have, instead of thinking "good for them, maybe one day I'll get that too", you think "fuck those guys, take their shit away from them"
Just crazy
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I agree that folks should be happy for anyone not paying the IRS - giving the government more money is never a good thing.
But.. I was in a very similar situation, and had to pay it all. It wasn't $50k, but it was better than half that amount. I was completely broke at the time - $500 would have been insane to pay. I paid it all back. Clawed my way back to where I could pay down a little every so often, and then finally saved up enough for the full amount and paid it off. It took a long, long, time.
Part of me says "why the hell did I have to live like I did for over 6 years to pay that back?" when I could have settled. But, the other part of me says "why the hell didn't I attempt to settle"
I can get where people who are paying it down the hard way come from is all I'm saying. Obviously the money was made at one point, in order to owe it to begin with.
As for the UAW, I don't think many "hate" on them due to how much they make. It's more the perceived idea that union workers are lazy, and unions keep the lazy employed for far more than what market wages are. While this may or may not be true, unfortunately my personal experience leads me to at least initially think this way about most union workers. Rarely have I seen a union shop where people truly pull their own weight, and want to do the best job they possibly can. Taking pride in ones work seems to be a thing of the past, and it's no longer "cool" to be good at your job. Better to be a slacker and work the system. There *are* some though, and those employees I applaud every damned dime they can get.
As for unions in general - they need to stop the "us vs. them" bullshit lowest common denominator stuff, and start encouraging productivity and punishing laziness within their ranks. I believe at one point, being in a union was a mark of honor of saying "I do a damned fine job of what I do, I work fucking hard, and I am willing to fight for what I rightly deserve". Your fellow union members would run you out of town if you were a lazy asshole. Now, unfortunately, most unions have generated into a "lets see what the littlest amount of work we can get away with for the most amount of wage possible". You create a guild/union of workers that you police well, and take pride in your work - and I bet you will have many businesses lining up to hire your members once you gain a reputation of "yes, they cost 50% more than other workers, but do 75% more work!". I know I would.
So.. off topic
Congrats to you RRRed, that has to feel absolutely wonderful. I know it did for me when I sent the IRS that final check - it was truly amazing. the weight lifting off your shoulders.