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Originally Posted by dr. Gonzo
Sorry, I did not quite get your point, maybe there was too much emotional detail. Are you saying the US is better now because the Soviets shot people years ago? Yeah, you know, I'm aware of the fact politics has gotten way more subtle since then and it's really hard to find these things in the civilized world today (let's not count bombings of the former Yugoslavia, okay). There are tons of shit going on, on every level, and the fact that you don't know about them or they are masterfully depicted in the media, does not change their nature. It does not change the fact that the country is about to be used in the big game of the big guys, and the ones to be hurt here will be common people, just like they always were.
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right... that's fine. you feel your own nation is a pawn in a larger game between larger nations. i think that's a legitimate concern. However, the issue is about global security and threat deterrence and military advantage which provides that deterrence.
but my point was that no solution, is not a solution. "fuck you guys" is not going to change the facts on the ground. chanting "leave us alone" isn't going to deter war, invasion or create a more favorable balance of power.
neutrality is the same as saying "come and get us"... Switzerland remained more or less neutral during WWII simply because of the massive undertaking it would have been to take over that country given the massive network of mountain bunkers and caves and defensive systems they had. Everyone else that tried not to get involved, was forced to get involved on someone elses terms, not their own.
"you may not want war... but war wants you" - that is the problem. national defense and security is a necessary part of life. its fine to say "We don't want you using us as a pawn in your stupid game" but that totally ignores your own history and that of the world and doesn't provide a solution to ensure the safety and security of your own nation.