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Old 04-07-2009, 04:01 AM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by dr. Gonzo View Post
It's not my mindset, it's just that I have bigger problem than you labelling people 'evil' when western media tells me to do so. And this media has got very good at disguising greed-driven carnage often initiated and promoted by your 'civilized' nations as fight against evil, terrorists, 'rogue states', whatever. Just because the sheep watching TV need an enemy. But is the enemy that different anyway?
Sure the enemy is different. they have different objectives. theirs clashes with yours. radical Islam is "different" because they want you dead. they are different because they want to die killing you. you are different because you want to live. you are different because you want them to live.

You say i "label people as evil" - but what about evil people? you can't categorically reject the notion that awful people exist and they want to cause as much death and carnage as they can... and that they are going to lash out at any chance they get? or quickly dismiss the actions, behavior and overt threats of rogue nations and terrorist states just because you hate the media.

In the big picture, there is no good and bad in people,... only collective interests. everyone's interests can't always be aligned all the time. That is the problem. Security and safety as a nation comes from making sure your own interests are protected for both the short and long term.

Either you are playing offense or defense in the game of global security and politics. You've chosen defense. That's why someone who thinks like that will always be in the weaker position. You understand that getting in the ring and boxing is a fact of life... but you don't want to throw a punch, you don't want to hurt anyone and your just hoping the other person will "see if your way". Because of your noble intent...its just a matter of time before you get knocked out.

I don't like the fact that we have to have a massive military. I sincerely don't. But is a simple fact of life. People want to do you harm. No matter how perfect you are, how noble you are, how generous you are... people want to hurt you. They want to, if for no other reason, than you are a symbol of something they don't like or that you are the antithesis of what they are. Just as you accuse Bush or the "western media" of needing an enemy... never forget that every narcissistic, megalomaniac, psychopathic who's ready to make a bloody grab for power also needs an enemy.. whether its "Jews" or "the great satan USA" or you, simply because you're not a devout Muslim. and you don't get to choose who will like you and who wont and why. You might wake up one day and find a school with over 1000 kids has been filled with bombs as what happened in Beslan... or you might be "relaxing at the pub in Bali", when it explodes into a massive fire ball. The list is long... of people who just wanted to mind their own business and "not get involved" and they are usually the ones who pay the highest price for their kindness, their compassion for others and for their naivety.

i understand your concerns.

But remember... its one thing to question what your told. Its another thing entirely, to categorically reject what your told.
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