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Old 04-16-2009, 12:41 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by Sin View Post
You might think you sound smart and to some extent you've got some valid points there, however you are completely disregarding the whole point of the medical issue.

One of my best friends is obese, and her entire family is obese, and it sure as fuck isn't from not eating healthy or not exercising. She herself ate healthier than I did, exercised more, and while she isn't the same size as her mom & dad, she will certainly never be "small" or even what society would deem "average"

Her metabolic rate I am guessing, has some medical reason why it does not function at the ridiculous rate that mine does. (I eat like a horse & have difficulty gaining weight)
you are disregarding the incontrovertible laws of physics.

1 pound of fat = 3500 calories.
a person requires XXXX calories per day to maintain their body weight/body function at rest (Basal Medibolic Rate/BMR)
a person expends XXXX calories per day

what you are saying is a common misconception. "oh my friend eats like a bird....". Thats never true. your friend eats like a bird when you're around and then she chokes down a bag of cookies when no one is looking. that's how the weight is maintained.

the fact remains that you can't become obese without having a significant net surplus of energy over time. i.e. taking in more calories than you expend.

you can't eat healthy and exercise and be obese. "eating healthy" means eating your bodies caloric requirements from good, whole foods and in the right proportions of macro nutrients. you can't burn 2500 calories a day and eat salads and boiled chicken all day, taking in 1600 calories a day and gain weight. You can't add exercise to that and burn another 500-1000 calories leaving the total net calories at 600 and a total deficit of 1900 per day and gain weight.

to gain weight, you have to have a net surplus of calories.

to gain significant amounts of weight, you have to have a significant net surplus of calories over time.

to maintain significant amounts of weight... you have to consume enough calories to maintain that weight.

this is not rocket science. its simple, 6th grade physics. 1 calorie is the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of one gram of water, 1 degree Celsius. its not an abstract idea. its basic math.

i am not saying this to be cruel. I am saying this because i am tired of a world where being obese and unhealthy is a "medical condition" because thats the easy excuse. we are now supposed to look at obesity as a handicap rather than look at that person and think "ok, that is a prime example of what not to do and why you need to exercise and eat healthy". that is a tremendous disservice to everyone alive.

significant segments of the populations of the USA and UK are obese. this has nothing to do with "medical reasons"
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