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Old 04-18-2009, 11:54 AM  
Biggy
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Originally Posted by Choker View Post
Believe me or not I dont care. I've done my research well on this. Clicks from under full length movies convert 4 times better than clicks from under 2 minute movies.

The big programs found a long time ago that putting their full length movies on tube sites and linking to their paysite from it converted surfers. No logic in this right? I mean why the fuck would a surfer pay for a movie he gets for free? 2 reasons
Are you really suggesting ppl should go full length movies and they are better off doing this than limited content. I don't believe that for one second. If it is true, its because either a significant amount of ppl click less, or theres something about the product you are selling them that you arent revealing in this thread, but in an environment where sponsors are giving out videos and then trying to upsell them to the paysite the video is from, there is absolutely no way you are better off giving them the full length. In fact, the most illegal of the tube sites, are the ones with the worst conversions and the highest turnover of ad spots!

And contrary to popular belief, tube sites arent printing money hand over fist. So much of it is predicated on cost and insanely low bandwidth prices, another critical point is the prepaid market which lately has been pulling back in a big way. Any successful tube site owner will tell you there will be months of loss before you ever turn a profit, if you even turn a profit. A little traffic = lots of bandwidth costs.

Your full length argument from big programs is RIDICULOUS. Ask eric from removeyourcontent - every single big program has limitations on time limit of what can and cannot be listed! Some of these companies even have in house counsel constantly enforcing to ensure of this... you really need to watch the message you are sending out, cause promoting the encouragement of sponsors giving full length videos is fucking ridiculous. All you're doing is inspiring more illegal tubes and piracy to pop up because not one big program sponsor will ever allow it. The big programs I specifically reference are brazzers, rk, bang, naughty america, etc - perhaps you can tell me the big programs you are talking about? brazzers is involved with pornhub, we all know this, why does pornhub only list brazzers clips in 3 minute sittings and have been doing this since it started... full length clips = more traffic = more bw costs = worst conversions. The more you give away, the less they need to buy, and the more quality you give away, the less they buy.

Last edited by Biggy; 04-18-2009 at 11:57 AM..
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