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i didn't read the whole thread.
I just know that when TGPs came out, there was howling and yowling... and then TGPs became a sales tool.
Now the same pattern's repeating with tubes...
If a tube has 1% or 10% of a site's full-length content, people will still join sites to get more and more and more...
What sucks isn't Tubes. What sucks is P2P groups that get together and put a buck each a month into a pot and torrent all the content.
Tubes? Hah.
:D
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