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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor
Spoken like a true humanitarian.
Yeah, this whole "torture" thing is overblown. 
How dare the U.S. follow international law and abide by the treaties they've signed? We should just shoot people who are surrendering from now on.
Damn you're a tool. |
I think when everything under the sun is being called "torture" like sleep deprivation or water boarding or any other totally harmless technique to get information - then we place ourselves at a further disadvantage.
The whole issue of "torture" is retarded and Obama releasing Bush memos to incriminate the Administration knowing damn well that no one can address anything because its classified was pretty low.
And you know what? Fuck the law. The law, as always is being used against us. this is not an issue of law enforcement... This is a war. The law did nothing to prevent this shit from happening. The law did not allow Clinton to arrest Osama after many repeated attempts to get other governments to hand him over. The law doesn't slow people down who are ready to die for what they believe in. In war, there is a winner and loser. That is all. I would rather be on the winning side than watch another 9/11 happen because you got your way and placed the entire government and our troops and the public at a major disadvantage.
The problem is not how the administration deals with these people, the secret CIA interrogation facilities etc.. the problem is that they allowed the public to know that they are doing the shit they do.
The ACLU is fighting for the release of more pics showing prisoners being treated badly... it was obviously wrong and shouldn't have happened.. however, the ACLU is doing it at the expense of US and NATO soldiers and all of the innocent people who will die as a direct result of placing a nice, new recruiting tool in the hands of Al Queda. The "Law" isn't always "whats right". This is something new that "the law" didn't foresee. and just as your messiah found out once he started getting top level briefings... its not so black and white and its not such an easy problem to deal with.
The biggest problem of the USA is that we love to go around preaching democracy and freedom and we should just shut the fuck up, take these people out and tell the world "hey, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do"
You show me Al Queda and other terrorists/terrorist groups adhering to "the law" and i'll happily support the notion that we should do the same.