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Old 05-14-2009, 08:11 PM  
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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim View Post
You know -- there is nothing more I really enjoy discussing more than religion. The other day, some Jehovah Witnesses came round, and I bent their ears for a good forty minutes in the front garden. In the end, they were trying to get away from me, but they were so well mannered they wouldn't turn round and say 'SHUT THE FUCK UP -- LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!'

Here is what I asked them;

God created Adam, and in turn created Eve. God told them they could have whatever they wanted, except for an apple. So, they take an apple and God is furious. He throws them out of the garden of Eden. Fast forward a few thousand years, and he want to forgive the sons of Adam for Adam's terrible crime, so he creates himself on earth in the form of Jesus, and then has himself arrested, persecuted, tortured, and executed so he could forgive man for Adam's sin of taking the apple.

Would it not have been easier to forgive Adam in the first place for taking the apple? Instead of going through the whole sado-masochistic process of having one's self tortured and executed -- Why didn't God just forgive Adam for taking the apple, which in the whole scheme of things is a pretty paltry crime considering what humans are capable of doing.
Free will, its a bitch.
Technically if God is all knowing he would already know both outcomes anyways.
Again though you are mixing the old testament God and the new testament God. The old testament God had no issues smoking people left and right, it was pretty damn neurotic, liked to play games, and honestly treated man and the Earth like a 4th grader.

However it technically was not a small crime, it was not just an "apple". It was knowledge, shame, and many other things. Forget the fact that Adam or man was created twice though.
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