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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim
That is not the perfect circle, as there are oddities with how John would have been fathered by Reese in the original timeline.
John could not have existed in the future prior to him sending Reese (his father) back to save Sarah -- as Reese's time travel was the first instance of time travel, and prior to this event Reese only existed in this timeline as a child, adolescent, young man, and then friend of John.
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Originally Posted by Darkland
I tried to explain that but his come back was that I only believe in 10-dimensions, which I never stated anywhere, when I specifically referred to multiple if not infinite time lines.
You can not get the egg before the chicken.
The only way his comments work is if the entire timeline is a closed loop cycle with a separate force or control that has already predetermined all events no matter what point on the timeline you exist. That would mean there is no such thing as free will and makes all the actions in the movie pointless.

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both of you are missing the point in 4 dimensional space time there is no alternative timeline
there is only one time line.
Under that situation traveling forward in time (how we do) results in cause always preceeding effect.
Reverse the direction of time (time traveling into the past) effect always preceeds cause.
There is no two ways about it.
The only way you can get an alternative reality is by creating a perpendicular dimension vtime= 5th dimension)
watch this video to understand 10d existance.
the point is Predestination paradox is the opposite solution (vs alternative timelines) to the grandfather paradox.
You can't have both, and since the movie clearly had a predestination paradox you can't have alternative timelines.
Temporal mechanics 101, which unfortunately the writer of the second movie did not understand, hense the biggest fuckup in franchise history.