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Gaybucks · 05-28-2009, 02:30 AM

I don't care if it's 5 bucks or $5000, the principle of someone taking money, promising something, and then not delivering is just not ok with me.

We got burned a couple times early on. Now, we are very clear that we simply don't pay up front, period.

Particularly with Filipino designers, there are about 10,000 of them and there are always some that are willing to work with us. The amazing thing to me is even when they know they aren't getting paid till they complete the work, a lot of them STILL do half the work, or sometimes do 90% of the work and then disappear, never even asking to be paid.

Or you get the list of 1000 excuses. One designer had his mother die... twice in a 3 month period. Someone is always in the hospital. The email didn't arrive. The net connection went down. They had a sudden emergency. I've never seen more natural disasters, equipment failures, or medical problems in any other society in the world.

Sometimes they will flake and disappear, only to reappear several months later, begging and pleading to do more work for us. Since we are never in the situation of losing money on them, sometimes once we explain the second time what the arrangement is, they actually follow instructions, do great work, and get paid, but it feels like we're educating a 10 year old each time we work with a new designer.

I wish you the best of luck in getting your completed work. Hopefully the guy will figure out that finishing your job will perhaps be worth the effort.

05-28-2009, 02:30 AM
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