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Old 06-13-2009, 10:10 PM  
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Originally Posted by MovieMaster View Post
Either way next year the checks and balances will be back in place...

So obama better get his fix or fuck up things he wants too soon before he has to play real politics when he can't just rush shit through both houses.
He's playing real politics now. Or have you not seem him reaching out to republicans even though he doesn't have to?

Case in point, on health care, he said he'd rather get 85% of what he wants in a bipartisan bill than get 100% of what he wants with only 51 votes.

That's something neither of our last two Presidents would have ever dreamed of saying.

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions View Post
Obama will truly be the "transformative leader" he is hyped up to be if the Dems retain solid control next year. That will break all sorts of historical precedents/patterns. It will truly be the culmination of the "liberalization of America" that a guest researcher on NPR was discussing around 9 years ago. I forgot his name but he mentioned that demographic changes in the US's exurbs and suburbs indicate a leftward swing that will last at least 20 years.
The demographics are in favor of the Dems, as are the particular seats that are up for election in the Senate in 2010.

Demographics favor Republicans in the Senate in 2012, but if Obama is steamrolling towards re-election at that point, he'll have some pretty long coattails.

The republicans "might" gain some seats in the house in 2010, but mostly because alot of weirdos got swept in on the Obama wave in 2008, and they'll get swept back out in 2010. A similar thing happened in 1982 (in the house) and 1986 (in the Senate) with alot of people who were swept in on Reagan's coattails. Either way though, they'd have to net over 40 seats to take back control of the house (by 1 vote). There would have to be huge voter dissatisfaction for the country as a whole to turn back to the party they just threw out in the last 2 elections.

Bottom line though is that success breeds success. If Clinton hadn't gotten sucked into playing the "don't ask don't tell" game right off the bat, and hadn't drowned in his own health care initiative, the 1994 Republican revolution wouldn't have happened IMHO.

Obama, so far, seems to be a much more shrewd and disciplined operator than Clinton was early on.

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If the shoe fits...
Says the guy who thinks Glenn Beck is "a breath of fresh air".
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